From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 695f679: Remove ; ; ; ###tramp-autoload cookie from Tramp defcustoms (Bug#47063) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2021 18:20:00 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20210313133546.6042.78482@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20210313133547.AA06C20B2E@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <877dma1yfv.fsf@tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22874"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Michael Albinus , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Basil L. Contovounesios" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 14 00:24:14 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lLDcE-0005r5-Om for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 00:24:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46538 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lLDcD-000125-JT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 18:24:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55284) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lLDYI-0006Ob-TM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 18:20:12 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:8798) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lLDYG-0002bK-0j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 18:20:10 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id BCA42100250; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 18:20:06 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 4C17E1001D2; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 18:20:01 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1615677601; bh=he/osynF+OgsHU+uoybyEAEt03nBJngCaQBbCfBQHuU=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=I10RLyX73vA1Oq9MFd4kTdaERejXspcLhGMQZkRN/TsQJRJZe+PGZexxkh44ArQ8f kryPKCkplZeWgQmdtSP0kV5Va/aOI+4Q/+Xatfh8OGAaSjma+A2P5WIx4SvRyNCtBK q+GPs91qrhfu6nIQIQizVclDpaUhMZDehVrzVHMCqVKoiAOF4XBXxEASAZQ5ZBpNOk n6Ffcgt0+Gq8p01HBbGISh3VaCqHrlG2Wx+YYGwreSpSYkB3NdL6lzfLrFYCJmJK8S Y675u169mrOZrpREoibM+SWrZ+XIinpbPmVsW82ubdr1kd4wwAHsnLehHAyFBZAy+r tko90nxGUOrpA== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [216.154.43.249]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 15067120488; Sat, 13 Mar 2021 18:20:00 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <877dma1yfv.fsf@tcd.ie> (Basil L. Contovounesios's message of "Sat, 13 Mar 2021 22:27:48 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266447 Archived-At: > My question is, which combination of the following should happen: > - The completion-predicate properties are not autoloaded. This means that autoloaded functions will always be listed in `M-x` (except after loading the corresponding package), which is undesirable. > - The function tramp-crypt-enabled-p is autoloaded. Sounds good. > - The function command-completion-default-include-p checks whether > completion-predicate is functionp. I think this is *also* needed, tho a better option is `with-demoted-errors` since no matter what error is signal'd we don't want it to prevent `M-x` from doing its job. Stefan