From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.erc.general Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: ERC Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 15:42:05 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87tuih3jfq.fsf@gnu.org> <875yuwpr4o.fsf@gnus.org> <87o88f746a.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8704"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org, emacs-erc@gnu.org To: Amin Bandali Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 27 21:53:03 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mUwgR-00023t-Kf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 21:53:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39650 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUwgQ-0002vU-In for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 15:53:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60376) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUwWX-0005Mh-VS; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 15:42:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:41902) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mUwWW-0002d7-93; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 15:42:49 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id EB62F806A7; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 15:42:44 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 98C6580580; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 15:42:43 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1632771763; bh=NVSbqEDr43PN8mVImio9HObE4x/boyOj7Xpqu/B/ojg=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=hbUYqBt+FZt0lHJyFdtUsN3TS61dDW+k+7Sg7CeRX1XjaSlyTMdKskh7n13pa+v4w yW2mBZDo51lHRZmNo550v3Q59BFgtACln0v5c6x3N6Ybav4WqlxnHslKPjXdqvza/h ehkdNf22wJiK+DjjKd082mf9lIyOxwbhei+xtia64z8GVXprqgZkjTmFP94FvzskRB OrQOTpd5X55kQsARPs/2fOYGv3xj36FZvFR+x5Mgg67igZJX+Az2hrmgp6UeQkBzFY ORTUazU5eai3uOLEAdXwETunn/fmzMcjnl5F7eDlgjKNlp+3TRha9xRKb+s/qNTYI3 NV9gfV7U+PNPQ== Original-Received: from alfajor (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8BFC31201AF; Mon, 27 Sep 2021 15:42:43 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87o88f746a.fsf@gnu.org> (Amin Bandali's message of "Sun, 26 Sep 2021 11:22:05 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:275609 gmane.emacs.erc.general:1607 Archived-At: >> The way you're suggesting to do it, `erc-autoloads.el` will end up >> defining/autoloading a lot more "stuff" even when ERC is not >> used/loaded. Maybe it's not terribly important, but I think it's >> important to be aware of the difference. > > Thanks for pointing this out. Admittedly, my understanding of the > autoload machinery is somewhat lacking. Would you please elaborate > more on this? I think I was just confused. I thought ERC used a similar mechanism to the one used by MH-E and Tramp (where they use special lisp/Makefile rules to generate their -loaddefs.el files). Stefan