From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: License Notice for ELPA packages Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2024 09:18:43 -0400 Message-ID: References: <86jzfnyevy.fsf@gnu.org> <874j6rzqo0.fsf@posteo.net> <87ikv5m2j3.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1776"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Arash Esbati , Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Kangas , "Protesilaos Stavrou" , Jose E. Marchesi To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 09 15:19:52 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sneJ5-0000K2-SO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 09 Sep 2024 15:19:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sneI9-0005ZG-V7; Mon, 09 Sep 2024 09:18:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sneI7-0005Yp-Ob for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Sep 2024 09:18:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sneI5-0005SN-Ry; Mon, 09 Sep 2024 09:18:51 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id C7FC1807A9; Mon, 9 Sep 2024 09:18:46 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1725887925; bh=oBiI28FUHF/ZfR5A5JlzSnCsPfUwYoMQkMYehrwzhn4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=aur/LhTWaxnEUDH2A1Bm/c9hiPmPJ+WzYIrI/bW8C4E1SvsIuu/CdiypkcbBeKef9 esl2Wtjehl3bSwLRisRLPc796lF1czRWw2cpjMDGkuSg/U4msnl4a/S2H7ynNLEKZw 0yQ36212V+cWpKMOM4RbaAJj4rk03iwCHWcS4HT/4iW5b2uSYwH3KyFtN+Ud9zI+S4 lQEyKqGgYdDeYS1Gznn75053GlLjlz9hSMAtzaHGMzKdbM5Jta/aoCcKpZgM1jKiIK ClCaYPZkU8C9e8afjWlCj95IA1uBB9zyaSfjDXInYbg7YXdiPvKtoYDSNGEEHocKIJ j5dXWgBLm2YKA== Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 06EE4803A3; Mon, 9 Sep 2024 09:18:45 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from pastel (104-195-234-249.cpe.teksavvy.com [104.195.234.249]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C445D120691; Mon, 9 Sep 2024 09:18:44 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87ikv5m2j3.fsf@posteo.net> (Philip Kaludercic's message of "Mon, 09 Sep 2024 12:31:44 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:323517 Archived-At: >>> So historically we have accepted both "is part of GNU Emacs" and "is NOT >>> part of GNU Emacs". IMO the better choice is to say neither. >> Thanks for your response. I installed this notice for AUCTeX files: >> ;; This file is part of AUCTeX. > While not wrong, I believe that this might confuse people in the future, > just like you were confused about the different instances of "is part" > and "is NOT part" found in different packages. Some might interpret > this as "what if any is the closest GNU project the file belongs to?". I don't understand: why would they restrict themselves to "GNU projects"? Stefan