From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: sendmail.el bug or expected behavior? Date: 30 Jan 2004 09:46:46 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <877jzn2lk8.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> <87oesmt61r.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1075474138 12412 80.91.224.253 (30 Jan 2004 14:48:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:48:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 30 15:48:52 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AmZwy-0005jZ-00 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:48:52 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AmZwy-0006zD-00 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:48:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AmZwZ-0007JT-Vy for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:48:27 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AmZwJ-0007HC-01 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:48:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AmZvl-00071R-6R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:48:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [132.204.24.67] (helo=mercure.iro.umontreal.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AmZv1-0006TH-4j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:46:51 -0500 Original-Received: from asado.iro.umontreal.ca (asado.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.24.84]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B06211A8; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:46:46 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: by asado.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 368058C6F9; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:46:46 -0500 (EST) Original-To: Rob Browning In-Reply-To: <87oesmt61r.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> Original-Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-1.524, requis 5, BAYES_01 -1.52) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:19571 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:19571 > Also, I'm not sure it's relevant (or even feasible with emacs current > code), and I don't use any of these systems myself, but it seems like > a lot of other MUAs just queue up the outgoing mail themselves and > either send it via SMTP, either on-demand or in the background, and > they treat messages that haven't made it out yet in much the same way > that emacs treats unsaved buffers -- if you try to quit, they ask you > about them. For people who have a properly configured > postfix/sendmail/exim/whatever queuing arrangement, this might not be > interesting, but for others, perhaps. It's not really relevant since this thread is about sendmail.el (i.e. sending mail with an external MTA) whereas what you're suggesting is to do the mail sending ourselves, which is what smtpmail.el does (i.e. you're suggesting to add queue management to smtpmail.el). Stefan