From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: TeX input method Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 10:29:23 -0400 Message-ID: References: <858xjxzgfs.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <851wppzemy.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1159885870 3184 80.91.229.2 (3 Oct 2006 14:31:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 14:31:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 03 16:31:07 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GUlIO-0007qi-4h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:30:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GUlIN-0008LH-J1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 10:30:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GUlIC-0008LC-EL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 10:30:44 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GUlIA-0008Ky-2w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 10:30:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GUlI9-0008Kv-Sk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 10:30:41 -0400 Original-Received: from [132.204.255.112] (helo=alfajor.home) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GUlNM-0005yf-Ph; Tue, 03 Oct 2006 10:37:06 -0400 Original-Received: by alfajor.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 919821CC86; Tue, 3 Oct 2006 10:29:23 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: David Kastrup In-Reply-To: <851wppzemy.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Tue\, 03 Oct 2006 15\:56\:53 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:60395 Archived-At: >>>> something going on (because of the underscored text, and the echo area >>>> output). I suggest to leave ~ alone and use `\ SPC' for nbsp. >> >>> That is strictly wrong, since `\ ' means a breakable space of standard >>> width in TeX. >> >> It's not strictly wrong because: the TeX input method != the TeX >> language. > We have already had people who use the input method data to convert > some input language to utf-8 and back. Diverting too far from the > language is probably not a good idea. >> BTW, do you have a counter suggestion for how to deal with the >> inconvenience of mapping ~ to nbsp? > Not right now. So in essence you consider it more important to stick as close as possible to TeX for those potential users who may want to abuse the input method as a sort of coding-system, even if if means annoying the actual daily users of this input method? In this case I think we should "fix" the TeX input method to be more like TeX? E.g. map `SPC SPC SPC ...' to " "? More seriously: the TeX input method is really not like TeX. It's only using TeX as a basis so that people who know TeX get the benefit of reusing the same names for the same chars. Stefan