From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New start up splash screen annoyance... Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:45:53 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87sl5n75kf.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189475326 28428 80.91.229.12 (11 Sep 2007 01:48:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 01:48:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, wilde@sha-bang.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 11 11:48:32 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IV1Nc-0001Ym-IS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2007 10:45:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IUttF-0002Fl-Rz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:46:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IUttB-0002FQ-O5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:46:01 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IUtt9-0002FE-Bc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:46:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IUtt9-0002FB-6r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:45:59 -0400 Original-Received: from tomts36.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.93] helo=tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IUtt4-0006uz-NT; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:45:55 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([70.55.141.227]) by tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20070911004553.ZAIV7033.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@pastel.home>; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:45:53 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 3EFFB80C5; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:45:53 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon\, 10 Sep 2007 19\:55\:35 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Detected-Kernel: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:78545 Archived-At: > Richard has made up his mind, I doubt there exist a way to change his > opinion on that. So since the startup screen will be displayed, the > only way out of this is to display both the startup buffer and the > file buffer. > There is no room for both in an ordinary size terminal. > (It was a struggle just to get the startup buffer to fit.) > So this is a non-starter. You mean that you added the constraint that even when started with a filename and even on a small terminal, the startup screen should be immediately visible in its entirety? Stefan PS: What is an "ordinary size terminal" nowadays? I never use terminals smaller than about 50 lines by 80columns, even when working on the console, and even when working on my good old amber-screen HDS terminal (50x132)