From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: help-fns.el patch for commands to describe options and commands Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:09:45 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1192932610 19170 80.91.229.12 (21 Oct 2007 02:10:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 02:10:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 21 04:10:10 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IjQGW-00048T-P5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 04:10:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IjQGP-0001sw-42 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:10:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IjQGG-0001mK-8F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:09:52 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IjQGF-0001lM-El for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:09:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IjQGF-0001lG-Bt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:09:51 -0400 Original-Received: from tomts20.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.74] helo=tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IjQGB-0003HF-Ne; Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:09:47 -0400 Original-Received: from ceviche.home ([74.12.207.168]) by tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20071021020946.YKRB8273.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@ceviche.home>; Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:09:46 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 00F43B41C1; Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:09:45 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sat\, 20 Oct 2007 09\:59\:31 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:81324 Archived-At: > Yes. When you are looking for a command, you don't want to see a zillion > non-interactive functions as candidates. This cuts down that noise > *considerably*. I could buy that. But those users for whom it matters most won't know to use the C-u prefix. And usually the C-u prefix means something like "give me more control", so it would make more sense to only list commands/options and let C-u specify that we actually want to see all functions/variables. Stefan