From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Package Management Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:39:23 -0400 Message-ID: References: <485b0c380808011427n4d3144eey3f8daf3abac83bf4@mail.gmail.com> <87ej589vku.fsf@hagelb.org> <485b0c380808050609y56042595l42a5bb05b34458f0@mail.gmail.com> <485b0c380909161536t331a71fdg1c45150c418b72b2@mail.gmail.com> <87ab0eai3l.fsf@hagelb.org> <87eipqpwfi.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1254285591 4010 80.91.229.12 (30 Sep 2009 04:39:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 04:39:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, spedrosa@gmail.com, phil@hagelb.org To: Tom Tromey Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 30 06:39:43 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Msqyc-0008Rj-EP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:39:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54925 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Msqyb-000080-JP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:39:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MsqyU-00006q-1Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:39:34 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MsqyN-0008Vi-C0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:39:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49209 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MsqyN-0008Vf-8x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:39:27 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183]:57040 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MsqyL-0003iW-3O; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:39:25 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsYEAP99wkrO+KOO/2dsb2JhbACBUMYSkGaEHgWHfg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,477,1249272000"; d="scan'208";a="46829703" Original-Received: from 206-248-163-142.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([206.248.163.142]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 30 Sep 2009 00:39:23 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id BA66BB4265; Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:39:23 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Tom Tromey's message of "Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:07:55 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:115799 Archived-At: Stefan> You mean that it "does" all those steps, right? Stefan> Not that it "distinguishes" them, right? IOW, it collapses "activate" Stefan> and "make available" into a single entity. > Yeah, sorry about that. > The reason it is this way is just that I thought the UI was better. > Few people have asked for a separate "deactivated" state. > Naturally, it is implementable. I still think the default on > installation should be to activate; requiring two steps seems > user-unfriendly. Yes, I agree on the UI front. But I think it's important to let the user have more control, when she needs it. So the default will be to auto-activate. Stefan