From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A better autogen.sh Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:34:42 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87y66fv2d3.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4D388F7F.20708@swipnet.se> <87r5c7jk5m.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4D39EF9C.1050804@cs.ucla.edu> <4D3A8666.4070609@cs.ucla.edu> <877hdvd49f.fsf@meyering.net> <83mxmrzhb6.fsf@gnu.org> <4D3C9C5B.8050303@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1300289704 7991 80.91.229.12 (16 Mar 2011 15:35:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:35:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 16 16:34:59 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PzskT-0005Fd-2K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:34:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55853 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PzskS-0004Tv-Gx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:34:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=55523 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PzskI-0004IH-Gr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:34:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PzskG-0008N0-3p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:34:46 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183]:6293 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PzskF-0008MM-PV; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:34:44 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAAt1gE1MCqJN/2dsb2JhbACmDHjBNIVjBJVa X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.63,194,1299474000"; d="scan'208";a="96837042" Original-Received: from 76-10-162-77.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([76.10.162.77]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 16 Mar 2011 11:34:42 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 17D19660BB; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:34:42 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:22:44 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.183 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:137289 Archived-At: >> What do people think of it? > Not many responses. Should I go ahead with installing this and removing > configure? I recommend we take a similar approach as what we did for loaddefs.el: move the bzr-controlled file elsewhere rather than deleting it. That's also what I do in my own local branch, because it avoid silly conflicts "can't merge change to deleted file". I.e. make a "boostrap-files" (or should it say "generated-files"?) directory. Move configure, aclocal.m4, src/config.in (and lisp/ldefs-boot.el) to it, then install your change (tho change the instructions to say "run ./configure" rather than "run configure" since we should not encourage people to have . in their PATH). We should try and keep the bootstrap-files more or less up to date (e.g. so the MS-DOS port can use them) for now, so that people who insist on not installing autoconf can still bootstrap. Stefan