From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What version of Emacs still requires '*' in defcustom docs? Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:17:43 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1a4nuxknrk.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wr7sxsp7.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1329070672 19604 80.91.229.3 (12 Feb 2012 18:17:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 18:17:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Chong Yidong' , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 12 19:17:51 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rwdzh-0006bK-BP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:17:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48970 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rwdzg-00043M-Sy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:17:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:50064) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rwdzf-00043H-40 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:17:47 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rwdze-0001f8-BZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:17:47 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:7797) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rwdzc-0001eq-Pe; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:17:44 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwIAEoBOE/O+IED/2dsb2JhbABDrnZ+gQiBcgEBBAFWIxALNBIUGA0kiA+3W4kxgg80TAwHCAYEBQMBg2MFE4QABIhKmxCEWg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.73,408,1325480400"; d="scan'208";a="162760425" Original-Received: from 206-248-129-3.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([206.248.129.3]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 12 Feb 2012 13:17:44 -0500 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C5D716611D; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:17:43 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 12 Feb 2012 09:18:25 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.93 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:148519 Archived-At: >> > Why is it important to make such a change? >> Because complexity is a problem in itself and as maintainers our main >> task is to try and keep it in check, so the code doesn't crumble under >> its own weight. > So do _nothing_. No added complexity for maintainers. The complexity is there already. It was introduced a long time ago by defcustom. We now know that it is not worth the effort and it's better to merge the two concepts, hence removing some complexity. Stefan