From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: policy, recommendations regarding `cl-*' Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 21:15:41 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83pq59hl5w.fsf@gnu.org> <78C072FCB2534C21835E7E6788B10624@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1348622152 26977 80.91.229.3 (26 Sep 2012 01:15:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 01:15:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Eli Zaretskii' , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 26 03:15:56 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TGgEE-00027c-82 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 03:15:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42530 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TGgE9-0000zm-0k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 21:15:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33662) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TGgE5-0000zY-MY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 21:15:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TGgE3-0004e8-MT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 21:15:45 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:65192) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TGgE2-0004di-5r; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 21:15:42 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAG6Zu09FxLT4/2dsb2JhbABEtBGBCIIWAQVWIxALNBIUGA0kiCG6CZBEA6MzgViDBQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="199983686" Original-Received: from 69-196-180-248.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.180.248]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 25 Sep 2012 21:15:41 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 2760B58EAB; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 21:15:41 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <78C072FCB2534C21835E7E6788B10624@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 25 Sep 2012 15:09:05 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.182 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:153551 Archived-At: Drew. Just keep using (require 'cl) for code that needs to run in Emacs<24.3 and move on. Yes, I hope to remove cl.el at the some point. Sadly, I know this time is not anywhere close. As for "new stuff more compatible with CL but using the wrong name", I do not know what you're referring to (you're using cl-loop as an example, but loop is now an alias for cl-loop, so that can't be it), so just be concrete (but brief) and maybe I can explain it. Stefan