From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Tom <adatgyujto@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Finding packages to enable by default
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 23:09:57 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvmwkhvn6c.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <loom.20131203T175045-6@post.gmane.org> (Tom's message of "Tue, 3 Dec 2013 17:05:42 +0000 (UTC)")
> I did some manual filtering as a test and here are some of the top packages
> which remained:
> (ido . 137)
> (uniquify . 136)
> (imenu . 114)
> (eldoc . 113)
> (ispell . 107)
> (flyspell . 91)
> (recentf . 90)
> (saveplace . 77)
> (yasnippet . 75)
> (windmove . 70)
> (auto-complete . 66)
> (delsel . 64)
> (paredit . 49)
> (iswitchb . 46)
> (savehist . 43)
> (linum . 38)
> (icomplete . 34)
> (winner . 34)
> (hippie-exp . 32)
> (ibuffer . 29)
> ...
Great, thanks. `uniquify' is now enabled by default.
`ido' is rather problematic because it's a very different interface with
incompatible key-bindings and it is not a superset of the current
default completion UI.
> Ido is at the top (iswitchb is also here) and ido/isiwtchb would really
> make a much better first impression for new users than the default
> very barebone buffer switching.
Iswitchb is marked obsolete in the trunk: you can get the same
functionality with icomplete-mode. So you can increase the count of
`icomplete-mode' for all users who have enabled iswitchb without
enabling icomplete-mode.
The plan for "ido by default" is rather to slowly make ido obsolete by
adding the corresponding functionality either in the default completion
UI or in icomplete-mode.
An alternative is to try and re-implement it on top of the current
completion UI. To a large extent, it boils down to the same.
> Of course, this package measurement should be repeated with
> representative data, but even with the data acquired from bug reports
> it gives some ideas for packages which could be enabled by default.
Indeed. But I think it can be a good starting point for discussions
about individual packages.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-12-04 4:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 188+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-29 16:50 Finding packages to enable by default Tom
2013-11-29 17:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-29 18:54 ` Tom
2013-11-29 20:12 ` chad
2013-11-29 20:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-29 21:01 ` Tom
2013-11-29 21:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-11-29 22:13 ` Tom
2013-11-30 1:59 ` Glenn Morris
2013-11-30 4:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-30 6:34 ` Tom
2013-11-30 13:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-30 19:10 ` Glenn Morris
2013-12-01 9:01 ` Tom
2013-12-01 9:13 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-01 9:21 ` Tom
2013-12-01 9:33 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-01 15:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-01 16:42 ` Tom
2013-12-01 19:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-02 17:09 ` Tom
2013-12-02 17:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-03 17:05 ` Tom
2013-12-03 18:11 ` Drew Adams
2013-12-03 18:30 ` Tom
2013-12-03 19:18 ` Drew Adams
2013-12-03 19:32 ` Tom
2013-12-03 19:55 ` [RFC] Micro-Init files in GNU ELPA & Survey suggestions(Re: Finding packages to enable by default) Jambunathan K
2013-12-03 20:35 ` Tom
2013-12-04 5:04 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04 5:29 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04 15:50 ` [RFC] Micro-Init files in GNU ELPA Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-04 15:48 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-05 4:46 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-05 14:27 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-05 14:45 ` joakim
2013-12-05 16:33 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-05 16:56 ` T.V. Raman
2013-12-06 0:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06 3:28 ` Tom Tromey
2013-12-06 3:49 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-05 23:18 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-06 1:34 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04 8:26 ` Finding packages to enable by default Jambunathan K
2013-12-04 9:13 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04 4:09 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2013-12-04 4:21 ` Andrew Hyatt
2013-12-04 5:46 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04 16:08 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-12-04 20:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-04 20:32 ` Tom
2013-12-04 21:16 ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-04 21:36 ` Tom
2013-12-05 1:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05 15:24 ` Davis Herring
2013-12-05 17:10 ` Tom
2013-12-05 18:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05 23:33 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-04 21:13 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2013-12-04 21:18 ` Tom
2013-12-04 21:39 ` Tom
2013-12-04 22:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-05 7:00 ` martin rudalics
2013-12-05 8:51 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-12-05 18:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05 18:57 ` Drew Adams
2013-12-05 23:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-06 0:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06 2:07 ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06 4:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06 5:16 ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06 5:53 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06 6:05 ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06 6:37 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06 8:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-06 8:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-06 11:20 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06 11:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-06 11:42 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06 13:57 ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06 14:18 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06 8:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-06 8:21 ` martin rudalics
2013-12-06 17:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06 17:40 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-12-07 22:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-08 17:45 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-12-08 21:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-10 1:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-11 3:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-11 14:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-11 14:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-08 20:23 ` Stephen Leake
2013-12-08 20:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-08 22:35 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-12-09 2:13 ` ada mode [was Re: Finding packages to enable by default] Glenn Morris
2013-12-12 16:42 ` Stephen Leake
2013-12-12 17:44 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2013-12-10 2:04 ` Finding packages to enable by default Stefan Monnier
2013-12-12 17:59 ` Stephen Leake
2013-12-11 3:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-11 8:13 ` martin rudalics
2013-12-11 11:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-11 14:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-11 14:44 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-11 15:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-13 4:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-06 8:21 ` martin rudalics
2013-12-05 0:28 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-05 4:34 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06 5:37 ` Josh
2013-12-06 5:46 ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06 6:01 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04 21:32 ` icomplete-mode vs. iswitchb Alex Schroeder
2013-12-05 1:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05 2:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05 12:45 ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-05 13:26 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-12-05 18:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-08 15:44 ` Mathias Dahl
2013-12-10 1:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-10 9:56 ` Mathias Dahl
2013-12-11 14:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-22 18:24 ` Mathias Dahl
2013-12-23 1:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-27 22:24 ` Mathias Dahl
2013-12-05 8:10 ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-05 18:57 ` Josh
2013-12-08 19:05 ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-08 19:09 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-09 18:39 ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-10 5:15 ` Josh
2013-12-11 4:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-11 18:09 ` Josh
2013-12-12 3:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-12 12:07 ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-12 12:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-12 12:41 ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-12 16:38 ` Josh
2013-12-12 17:11 ` chad
2013-12-13 2:45 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-13 2:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-13 3:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-12 18:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-12 18:53 ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-12 19:34 ` Josh
2013-12-12 17:15 ` Josh
2013-12-11 4:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06 16:49 ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-06 17:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06 23:07 ` Josh
2013-12-07 13:22 ` Stephen Eglen
2013-11-30 6:27 ` Finding packages to enable by default Tom
2013-11-30 19:06 ` Glenn Morris
2013-12-01 9:10 ` Tom
2013-12-01 22:55 ` Richard Stallman
2013-12-02 17:15 ` Tom
2013-12-05 19:48 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-30 5:34 ` Josh
2013-11-30 6:03 ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-09 11:21 ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-16 12:07 ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-17 10:34 ` Jambunathan K
2014-06-19 15:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-19 22:54 ` Drew Adams
2014-06-19 23:57 ` Daimrod
2014-06-20 8:25 ` Teemu Likonen
2014-06-20 9:25 ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-06-20 12:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-20 13:38 ` Teemu Likonen
2014-06-20 14:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-20 15:17 ` Teemu Likonen
2014-06-20 18:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-20 19:49 ` Teemu Likonen
2014-06-21 1:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-21 13:18 ` wcheck-mode (was: Finding packages to enable by default) Teemu Likonen
2014-07-07 14:07 ` wcheck-mode Stefan Monnier
2014-06-20 14:44 ` Finding packages to enable by default Stefan Monnier
2014-06-25 9:11 ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-06-21 21:51 ` Juri Linkov
2014-06-25 9:12 ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-06-21 22:16 ` Glenn Morris
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