From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Philipp Stephani <p.stephani2@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Saving match data
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 15:53:03 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvmv97d89i.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAArVCkQ_tzcosP_zDDRxm1iNox2t1PTYz5jrM-qA5TYv4xAsNQ@mail.gmail.com> (Philipp Stephani's message of "Fri, 16 Jun 2017 19:24:01 +0000")
>> > I think this statement is surprising
>> Agreed. That's why we have to write it explicitly in the doc ;-)
> Could we also write it in the docstrings of the match-related functions
> (match-beginning etc.)? I guess people are more likely to read those than
> the manual.
That might work, yes (tho in my experience, Elisp coder don't read
docstrings nearly as much as I would have expected).
>> Indeed, there's also an expectation that "primitives" don't touch the
>> match-data. It would be good to document it, tho it will take some work
>> to clarify what is meant by "primitive".
> At least all functions that are side-effect-free or pure (in the sense of
> byte-opt) are trivially in this category, so we could amend the help texts
> of these functions automatically.
Indeed.
> (Looking at that list, I'm wondering why so few functions are marked as
> pure - e.g. even `eq' is apparently not pure?)
I don't think there's a good reason for that. Just lack of need so far.
> It would also come with the obvious result of making the Emacs function
> contracts much clearer because they wouldn't modify global state any more.
Some still would (as long as the match-data is a global state).
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-06-16 19:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-09-28 14:01 Saving match data Philipp Stephani
2016-09-28 15:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-28 16:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-09-28 16:49 ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-09-28 18:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-09-28 18:37 ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-09-28 20:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-28 20:15 ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-09-28 20:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-28 20:42 ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-09-28 20:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-09-29 2:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-08 4:02 ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-10-08 6:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-08 15:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-06-16 19:24 ` Philipp Stephani
2017-06-16 19:53 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2017-06-16 22:16 ` Philipp Stephani
2017-06-17 13:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-06-17 14:02 ` Philipp Stephani
2017-10-08 15:56 ` Philipp Stephani
2017-10-08 16:01 ` Philipp Stephani
2016-09-28 17:00 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-09-29 9:29 ` Uwe Brauer
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