From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Non-nested minibuffers (was: Stop frames stealing eachothers' minibuffers!) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2020 15:52:14 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20201021200438.GF19276@ACM> <83h7qmkzla.fsf@gnu.org> <20201030220917.GA17594@ACM> <83v9eq97sj.fsf@gnu.org> <20201031161422.GA5887@ACM> <83d00ygx9c.fsf@gnu.org> <20201031194419.GC5887@ACM> <834kmago8m.fsf@gnu.org> <20201031203914.GD5887@ACM> <835z6ogc1h.fsf@gnu.org> <20201101195313.GA6190@ACM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11038"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 01 21:53:28 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kZKLw-0002m5-PS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 21:53:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36532 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kZKLv-0001Km-R6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 15:53:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59040) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kZKKs-0000Te-Ki for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 15:52:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:30068) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kZKKp-0004Kr-CF; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 15:52:21 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 31B7A100267; Sun, 1 Nov 2020 15:52:17 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 9060E1001CB; Sun, 1 Nov 2020 15:52:15 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1604263935; bh=A7vC9S9hUE+39CEcpwD/EwBJbysU6NUmdSJCcRBogNU=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=BBsomswPP+jhYEAbQKw8nuEXoN7vzzEM3TE1tWDNg+g+mcvUAoA/IMlVrSNhxfUc4 EqsFhvY6GkrV57kko+b9Bkzws3dQKdRJ6EFRPT7wn+RcNkK2CvMjI7qdMhRR7oARAw XdYBECzDBU2kHguma4qIrL4ltVNnnWZTS0sKsxlzzMtx9axznEh3jKjEN0OsbWWUEE mxeeSdjQ2BzNMQjLm6/tuKFAIxc2CYWppJXNk3Drtxp7A/WJcIs4xITEGgWKT0UkxA 3gv1zR0NRbbMoWgzpDLbMHXSzP6gjG6TeJTp1nHPNHfrQbTJG0bfVLwSZxNuPVVobN T5vCiHCre9dAw== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [157.52.9.240]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5A8D31202F7; Sun, 1 Nov 2020 15:52:15 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <20201101195313.GA6190@ACM> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Sun, 1 Nov 2020 19:53:13 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/01 13:59:37 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258611 Archived-At: > !m_f_s_f is that a minibuffer is attached to a frame. So actions in a > different frame shouldn't affect it. Notes that in practice they do anyway to some extent because minibuffer sessions are *nested*: you can't enter minibuffer 1, then enter minibuffer 2, then exit minibuffer 1, then exit minibuffer 2 (if the users try to do that, when they try to exit minibuffer they should either get an error 1 or have the minibuffer 2 automatically aborted before we actually exit from minibuffer 1). It might be interesting to try and use ELisp threads to allow non-nested minibuffer sessions. I mean, if you're interested in opening that box ;-) Stefan