From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: But then what are namespaces ? Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2021 15:59:34 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87fstl7lzw.fsf@web.de> <87a6jt7ilx.fsf@web.de> <87fstlzlaq.fsf@gmail.com> <20211001070242.GC16352@tuxteam.de> <1dd5e2c1f42bce50dc26@heytings.org> <6969a83a74f7bebe69f2@heytings.org> <6969a83a74b57d3d7839@heytings.org> <6969a83a7447c1963410@heytings.org> <6969a83a74ab69ebd555@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6686"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: =?windows-1252?B?Sm/jbyBU4XZvcmE=?= , tomas@tuxteam.de, Stefan Kangas , Dmitry Gutov , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 02 22:01:23 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mWlCF-0001ai-9g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 22:01:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41970 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWlCE-0004qT-3T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 16:01:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59718) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWlAc-0003jz-Kw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 15:59:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:57693) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWlAZ-0006aq-F2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 15:59:41 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 0F4F9806C6; Sat, 2 Oct 2021 15:59:37 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id DD1C0804AB; Sat, 2 Oct 2021 15:59:35 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1633204775; bh=7mlGvQCD7tkkHeRMLcbammmzC/tJnYHp4ijRl/+TIPw=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=NOc2b0IrCRhyjHKtaB0o9EVV3phDjA7dwcay61WHxTcaMjdJyKQP3hYpsEZsbYRft gLT49Ixb32henOaaokMewqVKjgkssmxQVH6bc9qpTk0lBRjlbqAS6KL7pJhfF48I/S xHZl5lSd+jva6aZy3qUrcJ6bCfIlhGHikVkZxGsGl/1Ld+EVwqSq5ziLgq80glacsd Bh8uKj3DcnVabo88gnLdc5hW5rkUJIsLwhN05ypPjHAkp+S+1u1viRA+5d/Mx51C9j le05kWt7gTC4uXIgpBlNZBZUnBMIiP5qL183cOghovscTZ0WE2s3DHdnEUVcaXyX7z GUsG2At6rWFTg== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.241.23]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6D8E81202E6; Sat, 2 Oct 2021 15:59:35 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <6969a83a74ab69ebd555@heytings.org> (Gregory Heytings's message of "Sat, 02 Oct 2021 19:42:15 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276077 Archived-At: > Elisp has a single namespace, and this does not change with shorthands. Many/most languages with namespaces map "local names" to a unique global namespace (e.g using hierarchies like `org.gnu.foo.bar` to avoid conflicts). So this new mechanism is not that different. Stefan