From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : [emacs bookmark.el] Sorting by last set Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2022 13:53:27 -0400 Message-ID: References: <875ylhvu4k.fsf@red-bean.com> <87a6ar84rn.fsf@elite.giraud> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16295"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Karl Fogel , Lars Ingebrigtsen , Drew Adams , emacs-devel To: Manuel Giraud Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 05 19:54:16 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nxuS7-0003zN-Tu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2022 19:54:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53370 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nxuS6-0003ZP-Nn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2022 13:54:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58970) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nxuRR-0002uO-VX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2022 13:53:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:41511) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nxuRP-0005bv-HT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2022 13:53:32 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 153A280436; Sun, 5 Jun 2022 13:53:30 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id D697F800A5; Sun, 5 Jun 2022 13:53:28 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1654451608; bh=jn/IsWWhknbmERRMKJI14s6u0HGwInzic+N1yQp6428=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=T3VGesU00ctO/8bHkqC3zwq8UeSBVlW/XwjbLDc3lJldMRfK1UYIWTBPiyr/UoWA7 xov45yIusaKhxs10XuGSx0kXeJguvabDpl0RA+jzk4UEBH9gKwCIK+q7PvnXMxkXlD 4R9IOfV+TcXLvliXuf402xp9/GQmlq7VsQDTkbPJzOvysqQToN/moHrNwo04HApje3 zOFiPuTBNKv1jbCFinbfwM9IriwM+J7aYLE0WzvBIxY1QKQh0EwKMXSWW/hh9AjVa6 1i/lW+au1rfULbsVO9R16cEdnlZRBwHmp3BQtK6iwyghLBoRHzh31FmiXJ6kSD7hqq PC3WDcOY9ueSQ== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.221.51]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 97583120371; Sun, 5 Jun 2022 13:53:28 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87a6ar84rn.fsf@elite.giraud> (Manuel Giraud's message of "Sun, 05 Jun 2022 18:16:28 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:290741 Archived-At: >> The simple solution would be to just change the symbol to >> `last-set-date'. I think that would be my choice. It would >> reduce the potential for confusion and misunderstanding. > > Yes, I forgot about annotations so I think `last-set-date' would be > better. I could prepare this simple patch. FWIW, I don't think we can expect a user to know intuitively the difference in meaning between "last modified" and "last set", nor can we expect them to understand that changing a bookmark by editing it annotations would be treated differently than changing it by making it point elsewhere. Stefan