From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master f515d658e5 1/2: Don't quote numbers in byte-run--set-* Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2022 19:12:01 -0400 Message-ID: References: <165548588979.10920.4402229762078749924@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20220617171130.8EDECC01685@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <878rpv40yk.fsf@gnus.org> <875yky2omz.fsf@gnus.org> <871qvkzz6x.fsf@gnus.org> <87h74gthgl.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27951"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 20 01:13:13 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o346T-000764-KR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2022 01:13:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33744 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o346S-0000xi-6z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 19 Jun 2022 19:13:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45934) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o345X-0000Gs-2Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jun 2022 19:12:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:53348) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o345U-00008f-Ew for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jun 2022 19:12:13 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id B82C8805C8; Sun, 19 Jun 2022 19:12:09 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 3513F802A5; Sun, 19 Jun 2022 19:12:04 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1655680324; bh=C3xMvRbYAeBhbzQ3Lg8kD3qsO6zGivgxGrD2P3LGy4w=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=WW6+YbfMAyl2XxLrSxHoHLLYOLAxCH0enwC3XyWjTZDIneuR1M9smBfKN+4x7kh4H ypr5BlSI0FixHcx9Q8+UXM5RUKasHH7k1qcsejVC3nXOTFFyIgPNDMG+XEHhQ/l4g3 bQJkNe5EX31495hR6jt/qR2QPMnSftGTZDFtlxMh4rn5HErrn5d0hbE2tQKFLjwBWe HeP/Vm1RGnX9g0P7HIy9u9/wA+6AUwbLb2GPz3VIK2Ps0KSSDpWV6KM1qqE2bJu/ll 3SGQiC1iBVUWclPePemb3LGzoKqaR6TNU0EPSbymfTi/PoOeSfAQoOaK4Yf7U9BUsj LCsUXejjA99wQ== Original-Received: from alfajor (196.214.25.93.rev.sfr.net [93.25.214.196]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8EC3A12016F; Sun, 19 Jun 2022 19:12:03 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87h74gthgl.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 20 Jun 2022 00:29:46 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:291444 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen [2022-06-20 00:29:46] wrote: > Stefan Monnier writes: >> My proposal was to change the semantics, rather than to "avoid if". >> According to it, >> (declare (doc-string (foo bar))) >> would actually set `doc-string-elt` to the return value of calling (foo >> bar) rather than setting it to the list `(foo bar)`. > Oh, right... Hm. I don't really have an opinion about that, but it's > pretty unusual for declare forms to not be literal, I think? Part of the motivation was indeed to change those habits. I think the quoting used all over the place is mostly an accident that happens to usually be harmless, rather than a feature. Stefan