From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs reproducible builds part1 of 2 : eln Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:44:22 -0500 Message-ID: References: <8d01d73e-7ce1-4b3a-a25c-03b518a7e584@lsmod.de> <83jzofj70t.fsf@gnu.org> <83edemiklb.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27525"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , bernhardout@lsmod.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Mattias =?windows-1252?Q?Engdeg=E5rd?= To: Andrea Corallo Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 10 19:45:23 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rYsLq-0006vt-O8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 19:45:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rYsL0-0000M0-Dk; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:44:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rYsKz-0000KF-3M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:44:29 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rYsKx-0000uB-CI; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:44:28 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id D7153100134; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:44:24 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1707590663; bh=pP4Wt3lOW5Wm4chAZ+QQc3/DOTSMRZDW43NWL7NEQbY=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=fX9GlPGlsQl8dSG1/0kjENeoylbGUo7aJ54FYiT6SRoafH71mLaX5GAas7RZaqmTe mq0oDCy3dUW3m006/9Ba+KFjvOjU54Dvp4fzO4ALQ4L6D4aM18jhO2h35pJdoYJBMF mC91wLf4aFoi1OmVhfk8FI8HKpEVyjnRJ5witbkXetvicNtBJ2WJ3B1F3JrCSTRQZz +L+7jmaw5i3EGzwCYPDmgFh1+bPupvd8ALBhyJjCXmk+GRD04ei5Dcv1B/UVCZl+eT vhBc/qR21DfRQMMbnbQgIU7f2atxkwlWFK/n3o+ADGU5i6KRXDGk8aIn5GKruF5OY2 KiaoLMTEhBRqw== Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id CE96510009E; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:44:23 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [104.247.238.113]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 99984120A6F; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:44:23 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Andrea Corallo's message of "Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:31:22 -0500") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:316104 Archived-At: >> So, I'm not sure it explains the phenomenon you're seeing (I haven't >> seen the rest of this thread yet). > > Interesting, I imagined the walk order is defined but my question is > what about two hash table with the same content but created in two > different sessions? Depends how they were filled: if they were filles by the same sequence of operations, then they should have the same walk-order. If not, then all bets are off. Stefan