From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: My usage of imenu is broken. Date: Tue, 28 May 2024 17:28:21 -0400 Message-ID: References: <86r0dmtbk2.fsf@gnu.org> <86h6ehu6w8.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28885"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Yuan Fu , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 28 23:29:31 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sC4Nv-0007Hg-G2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 28 May 2024 23:29:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sC4N0-0005rx-34; Tue, 28 May 2024 17:28:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sC4My-0005r3-E3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 May 2024 17:28:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sC4Mw-00030X-Rp; Tue, 28 May 2024 17:28:32 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id CBF814448B7; Tue, 28 May 2024 17:28:28 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1716931707; bh=OAYLLJz3VAbTHy18st/xJ7bKw8ehM3DOEzFCuHlOtME=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=ovgXVyR24QVi+OoHTrx6IeWZWXz1L9/7B6dUYIG/GaoVnClDF9NLO6xbsqe5O73mz /Eko5zwLAqYyMdjz1/16s3Gbg+W2vDm4ax5L61JeUAxWnBKr58k968sbzArNThAOCU Ru9GGJa9jIDJGvZURbleoLZj3wp/PlEj+RlAf1pvHVkiM+FWLsFGIUQ5u7LVUuP+3n TeYokPJEa+8CKeYwYlr1x3gluj+IITZQZSi9XaQsm73/5lkPoGNoKVMqNVSdIZ0xcU AHRLIH5DmVXxgHtVtLUwafGbJl9TpTSx5IKQdZi6890b1Y4AuJaIfn6/FExji52yR2 rDiDfSjcZE4DQ== Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 81D874448B4; Tue, 28 May 2024 17:28:27 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from lechazo (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 70302120230; Tue, 28 May 2024 17:28:27 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Tue, 28 May 2024 20:46:48 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:319659 Archived-At: > It's different enough to me to matter. It adds boilerplate entry to > data entry, and would likely more than double the time to get to the > target function. I'm not saying here that it's bad, just that it would > be bad for me. > > I don't think anything like the CC Mode imenu style is available in the > c-ts-mode etc. modes. FWIW, I think the problem partly lies on the side of `imenu`. The API should let major modes provide the info once and for all, and then the user should be able to choose whether they prefer to see it as a few steps down a decision tree (e.g. first choose the category then the identifier) or something else (e.g. completion of strings of the form " ", or order-agnostic so you can write either " " or " ", or ...). Stefan