From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: TeX input method Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 10:52:27 -0400 Message-ID: References: <858xjxzgfs.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <851wppzemy.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85d597ql3a.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85mz8aonen.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1160060409 25136 80.91.229.2 (5 Oct 2006 15:00:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 15:00:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Kenichi Handa , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 05 17:00:05 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GVUab-0002DG-4Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 16:52:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GVUaa-0000id-PC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 10:52:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GVUaR-0000iH-6Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 10:52:35 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GVUaP-0000i5-FV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 10:52:34 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GVUaP-0000i2-Cv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 10:52:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [209.226.175.110] (helo=tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GVUh2-00082h-Al; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 10:59:24 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([70.53.194.68]) by tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20061005145228.FJHY19825.tomts43-srv.bellnexxia.net@localhost>; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 10:52:28 -0400 Original-Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 05D037ED3; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 10:52:28 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: David Kastrup In-Reply-To: <85mz8aonen.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Thu\, 05 Oct 2006 16\:19\:44 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:60433 Archived-At: >>>>> "David" =3D=3D David Kastrup writes: > Stefan Monnier writes: >>> But ~ is a different beast. >>=20 >> Then what about changing the=20 >>=20 >> ~ -> =A0 >> into >> ~~ -> =A0 >> or >> ~ -> =A0 >> ~~ -> ~ >>=20 >> At least this way, the user will get the usual underlining as well >> as echo-area feedback so she knows what's going on and the NBSP will >> be reachable with ~ so the user's expectation that it works like TeX >> won't be too far off. > I think I would prefer the second variant. OK would others object? > It seems closer to the usual accent behavior. [ I presume you think of a latin-prefix style input-method ] Odd, I'd think the opposite: with accents, after hitting the accent key, the accent char is displayed as is (i.e. after hitting just ~, an underlined ~ would be displayed) and if the following key is not one of the special ones, the accent stays as a normal char. The first variant behaves like that. The second behaves more like the " -> `` thingy of LaTeX-mode. I myself prefer the first variant, because it's less intrusive, but if people prefer the second (which is closer to the current behavior), I can live it. Stefan