From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Shift-movement selection Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:37:27 -0400 Message-ID: References: <200803050637.m256bXL3008361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87hcfkdhqk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87d4q8sq9c.fsf@jurta.org> <8763w0n393.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <871w6ounk0.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> <87ablacdxt.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87skyzzeng.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205120273 30203 80.91.229.12 (10 Mar 2008 03:37:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:37:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, storm@cua.dk, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 10 04:38:19 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JYYq9-0007MP-Ib for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 04:38:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JYYpb-0007tR-BH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:37:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JYYpV-0007q0-MJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:37:37 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JYYpT-0007pO-ES for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:37:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JYYpT-0007pD-6c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:37:35 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JYYpM-0001Uy-A4; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:37:28 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmgCAKNJ1EfO+J2CdGdsb2JhbACQfQEwlxyBBw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,472,1199682000"; d="scan'208";a="15776451" Original-Received: from smtp.pppoe.ca ([65.39.196.238]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 09 Mar 2008 23:37:27 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([206.248.157.130]) by smtp.pppoe.ca (Internet Mail Server v1.0) with ESMTP id QGV59027; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:37:27 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 34CAC805A; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 23:37:27 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87skyzzeng.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:00:35 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91992 Archived-At: >> (defun activate-on-shift-selecting-movement () >> (if (this-command-keys-are-shifted-p) >> (progn >> (setq shift-selecting-movement t) >> (unless mark-active (set-mark))) >> (when shift-selecting-movement >> (setq shift-selecting-movement nil) >> (when mark-active (deactivate-mark))))) >> >> and then call it from wherever it's considered useful >> (e.g. forward-char, next-line, ...). > AFAICS, such an approach would make deselection much less likely to work > consistently: the way it's _supposed_ to work is that any pretty much > any command except for the special shifted versions should cause > deactivation -- and in emacs that's pretty much _every command_. > So to make it work "correctly", you need to modify all commands in > emacs! [yikes!] Most commands already deactivate the mark. So which ones would be left? Do they matter? Stefan