From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: japanese vs. chinese fonts Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:32:33 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1222981828 28087 80.91.229.12 (2 Oct 2008 21:10:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 21:10:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: miles@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 02 23:11:26 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KlVSE-0002cz-5a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:11:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40673 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KlVRB-00018b-1s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:10:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KlVPX-0000AE-VO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:08:36 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KlVPX-00009s-AG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:08:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57016 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KlVPX-00009i-3x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:08:35 -0400 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:34830) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KlVPU-0002Vy-Ee; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:08:32 -0400 Original-Received: from ceviche.home (vpn-132-204-232-44.acd.umontreal.ca [132.204.232.44]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m92L90Mc022780; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 17:09:00 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 808F1B4284; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 09:32:33 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Kenichi Handa's message of "Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:45:04 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Level: X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0.5 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 2 Rules triggered SUBJ_END_DOT_WORDS=0.5, RV3117=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:104312 Archived-At: >> So I think this problem should be pushed up to fontconfig's team. > I'm not sure. It's not wrong that fontconfig decides that > the font support Japanese. Perhaps, the problem should be > reported to the font developper not to include ungly glyphs > in a font. Fontconfig can't know how ugly glyphs are. But fontconfig needs to provide a way to select "font appropriate for Japanese text". Whether "lang=ja" is what it's for (in which case it needs to be fixed/improved) or whether something else is needed I don't know. But it's fontconfig's job to provide the functionality, because it's not specific to Emacs. Let's let the fontconfig people decide whether it's a bug report, feature request, ... Stefan