From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: STARTTLS for erc Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 09:10:53 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1309007543 14053 80.91.229.12 (25 Jun 2011 13:12:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 13:12:23 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 25 15:12:19 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QaSeo-0007TK-Ur for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 15:12:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32859 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QaSen-00052q-Rr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 09:12:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:50826) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QaSdU-0004os-Uu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 09:10:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QaSdT-0002gS-GO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 09:10:56 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183]:1338 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QaSdT-0002gM-4b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 09:10:55 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmcHAJXcBU5MCqDH/2dsb2JhbABQA5hejml4iHTBd4M/gnEEnhGEKQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,424,1304308800"; d="scan'208";a="117113094" Original-Received: from 76-10-160-199.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.160.199]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 25 Jun 2011 09:10:54 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 9AFB758FD6; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 09:10:53 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 23 Jun 2011 02:54:52 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.183 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:140957 Archived-At: > So erc could close the connection, and then restart it, now with > STARTTLS. But ircd logins are notoriously slow, so that's > totally icky. A protocol where sending a password is "necessary" is basically incompatible with STARTTLS anyway (otherwise, it's trivial to force the password to be sent in the clear). So TLS support (which I added to rcirc recently) seems quite sufficient for ERC. Stefan