From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Abolishing ChangeLog files Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:00:02 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87y5d9p5td.fsf@dex.adm.naquadah.org> <87vc8dtbcb.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871ub1gmdf.fsf@engster.org> <87d2ulovd0.fsf@dex.adm.naquadah.org> <85r4j0h1ww.fsf@member.fsf.org> <85li98h1qx.fsf@member.fsf.org> <87ehf0b3x2.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87obe3gaem.fsf@engster.org> <87ip4bj1ay.fsf_-_@earth.home> <87a9pnhjya.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364504414 18742 80.91.229.3 (28 Mar 2013 21:00:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 21:00:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Thierry Volpiatto To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 28 22:00:39 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ULJw7-0000ai-Cr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 22:00:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56777 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULJvj-0004gD-Ca for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:00:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45653) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULJvg-0004fE-Au for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:00:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULJve-0003id-EU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:00:12 -0400 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:46903) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULJvZ-0003fd-61; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:00:05 -0400 Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id r2SL02T3028294; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:00:02 -0400 Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 14344B4178; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:00:02 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 28 Mar 2013 14:58:48 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Level: * X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 1.5 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 3 Rules triggered BDY_CHNGLOG_ATT=1, BDY_CHNGLOG_ATT_HTP=0.5, RV4532=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9362 : core <4532> : streams <929844> : uri <1378555> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:158384 Archived-At: > Emacs ChangeLog files are not redundant with VC change records. > We put different information in them. At least, I do. > In the ChangeLog files I put lists of functions changed and how. > In the bzr log entry I explain the overall purpose of the change. The rules we supposedly follow in Emacs's repository is to put a copy of the ChangeLog entry in the commit record. So the ChangeLog file should be redundant. If it's not, it's an error of the committer. Stefan