From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rectangular regions Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 14:25:54 -0400 Message-ID: References: <52707D17.6010801@dancol.org> <8338niefba.fsf@gnu.org> <87a9hq8h7p.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1383330377 665 80.91.229.3 (1 Nov 2013 18:26:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 18:26:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Xue Fuqiao , emacs-devel , Bastien , Eli Zaretskii , Daniel Colascione , Leo Liu To: Jay Finger Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 01 19:26:19 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VcJQI-0003KU-Kd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 19:26:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39452 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VcJQI-0006nu-75 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 14:26:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56738) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VcJQ8-0006nn-9G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 14:26:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VcJQ1-0003Ku-04 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 14:26:08 -0400 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:57421) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VcJQ0-0003Kh-R5; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 14:26:00 -0400 Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id rA1IPsI8013147; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 14:25:54 -0400 Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 7544AB420C; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 14:25:54 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Jay Finger's message of "Fri, 1 Nov 2013 10:12:34 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4749=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9362 : core <4749> : inlines <196> : streams <1066270> : uri <1582852> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:164818 Archived-At: > Yes, IMO. I can imagine this list has a preponderance of people that would > miss the binding, though. Personally, even though I have always written > more elisp than the people immediately around me, I'm a C/C++ programmer, > and mark-sexp doesn't do anything intuitively useful for me in c++-mode, so > I've never internalized it. In C (and friends), C-M-SPC in front of a semi-colon should select the whole subsequent instruction. And in front of a comma, it should select the next argument. Admittedly, it doesn't. But that's what major modes relying on SMIE do, and I find it makes C-M-SPC very useful in such major modes, even tho their syntax is not Lispish. Of course I'm biased: I made C-M-SPC do that in SMIE-based modes specifically because I wanted such a thing (similarly with C-M-t to swap two arguments). > Even though I voted for C-x SPC, I would miss gud-break. So would I, but so far it looks like the strongest contender. Of course gud-break is available as C-x C-a C-b, as well as a toolbar button, but indeed C-x C-a C-b is pretty poor :-( > Oooh. s-SPC is free. I shall bind it to s-SPC in my own .emacs anyhow. Indeed, we could also use S-SPC: it's not available under ttys, but is otherwise free. Stefan