From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Latest master broken on Cocoa/NS Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 09:35:09 -0400 Message-ID: References: <6094b884-c675-cc67-cdc8-c6810b26f97d@yandex.ru> <676ea8c5-848d-5646-0be4-537fd7c1a1c3@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1468590039 3334 80.91.229.3 (15 Jul 2016 13:40:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 13:40:39 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 15 15:40:31 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bO3Lm-00033q-7W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 15:40:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60823 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bO3Ll-00077S-9e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 09:40:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33150) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bO3Lf-000750-5C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 09:40:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bO3La-0003q6-Q3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 09:40:10 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:37026) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bO3La-0003oj-JJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 09:40:06 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bO3LY-0002uo-1K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 15:40:04 +0200 Original-Received: from 69-165-156-121.dsl.teksavvy.com ([69.165.156.121]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 15:40:04 +0200 Original-Received: from monnier by 69-165-156-121.dsl.teksavvy.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2016 15:40:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 69-165-156-121.dsl.teksavvy.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:D6+5omqTS85GweUgxJx3J+HQKuE= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205708 Archived-At: >> Before trying it, can you please offer some motivation for why we want this >> change? That would help us in reading it. > For NS, this is a no-op. > For others, this addresses the cases where tooltips are 'first-class' > frames in Emacs terms (--with-x-toolkit={no,lucid,motif}, MS Windows, > GTK[23] builds when 'x-gtk-use-system-tooltips' is nil). The goal was > to avoid tricky global variables and (hopefully) to reduce overall > complexity of the relevant code. I'm completely unfamiliar with this code so can't say anything intelligent about that change (and don't have any opinion whether it's good or not). But it does ring a bell here: for company-mode's popup menus, we'd want to be able to create non-toolkit popup frames, even if Emacs was built with support for toolkit popup frames. Stefan