From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: nxml-mode: Derive from prog-mode instead of text-mode Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 10:45:20 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1494412509.2069441.971865104.0646ACD6@webmail.messagingengine.com> <8337ccbrar.fsf@gnu.org> <1494439153.1311720.972341016.7C2EC66A@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83o9v0a66q.fsf@gnu.org> <1494487799.3240345.972964808.43DA610E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <87r2zqvmy9.fsf@pokyo> <1494930855.4131543.978121176.7BB5246B@webmail.messagingengine.com> <83y3tw63ap.fsf@gnu.org> <1494961376.1006215.978713264.44871586@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1495615846.16883.986870960.75A217AB@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1496131500.1757184.992543904.7F3B36E0@webmail.messagingengine.com> <1496406872.1818733.996544288.4194749A@webmail.messagingengine.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1496760391 1723 195.159.176.226 (6 Jun 2017 14:46:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 14:46:31 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: jostein@kjonigsen.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jostein =?windows-1252?Q?Kj=F8nigsen?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 06 16:46:25 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dIFkV-0008Kw-Hf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Jun 2017 16:46:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38680 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dIFkX-0000m2-UX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Jun 2017 10:46:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37460) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dIFje-0000Kl-Dg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jun 2017 10:45:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dIFjZ-0006kn-Ii for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jun 2017 10:45:30 -0400 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:41391) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dIFjZ-0006kL-BH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jun 2017 10:45:25 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.7/8.14.1) with ESMTP id v56EjKYq003832; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 10:45:20 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id B450F6017E; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 10:45:20 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <1496406872.1818733.996544288.4194749A@webmail.messagingengine.com> ("Jostein =?windows-1252?Q?Kj=F8nigsen=22's?= message of "Fri, 02 Jun 2017 14:34:32 +0200") X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 2 Rules triggered EDT_SA_DN_PASS=0, RV6039=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9418 : core <6039> : inlines <5908> : streams <1748760> : uri <2439157> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:215472 Archived-At: > One type of conflict is mode-state: For text-based modes I want to > flyspell enabled, but for programming-related modes I want it disabled. > > Another type of conflict is keybindings: I like to plug in languagetool- > related functionality on keys consistent with what I typically have in > programming-modes. That means that targets of these bindings for these > keys differ in text-mode and prog-mode. It seems to me that those conflicts aren't a real problem for the combined text+prog mode: the same problems exist with the current setup when you want prog-mode and you get text-mode (or vice versa), so using a combined text+prog mode wouldn't make things really worse. And I don't think there's a really better solution to this problem: you currently want A for text-modes and B for prog-modes, so for modes which sit halfway you're going to have to tweak your ~/.emacs to tell Emacs which of A or B (or yet something else, maybe) you want, no matter how we make these halfway modes behave. Stefan