From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2017 11:52:45 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87o9sp7qok.fsf@gmail.com> <87zic9vk98.fsf@mouse> <87fue17mo5.fsf@gmail.com> <87tw2hvhob.fsf@mouse> <8760ex63hi.fsf@gmail.com> <87fue1v5lr.fsf@mouse> <87shi0tqh3.fsf@gmail.com> <87d18fwl66.fsf@gmail.com> <87tw1rihu0.fsf@mouse> <4037dc81-4245-6925-842a-2c84a5ba996d@cs.ucla.edu> <87pocfibky.fsf@mouse> <873798j2ij.fsf@mouse> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1501775579 27091 195.159.176.226 (3 Aug 2017 15:52:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 15:52:59 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 03 17:52:55 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ddIQe-0006ij-DS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2017 17:52:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55558 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddIQk-000830-E0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2017 11:52:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45249) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddIQa-00082A-Ct for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2017 11:52:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddIQZ-0007t2-LC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2017 11:52:48 -0400 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:52121) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ddIQZ-0007sW-G7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Aug 2017 11:52:47 -0400 Original-Received: from lechazo.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.7/8.14.1) with ESMTP id v73Fqj0j004832; Thu, 3 Aug 2017 11:52:45 -0400 Original-Received: by lechazo.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 1C5C860270; Thu, 3 Aug 2017 11:52:45 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <873798j2ij.fsf@mouse> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 03 Aug 2017 13:48:20 +0200") X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 2 Rules triggered EDT_SA_DN_PASS=0, RV6086=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9418 : core <6086> : inlines <6006> : streams <1757004> : uri <2475609> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:217260 Archived-At: > Hm... that sounds like a nice compromise. However, there might be a > lot of these messages if, for instance, the user visits a web page where > all the images are being served over a TLS connection we're warning > about. This problem keeps occurring, so we simply need to solve it once an for all: provide a new variant of `message` which OT1H guarantees that this message will be visible for a minimum of N seconds, and OTOH guarantees that it won't be repeated more than once every M seconds (M being probably large enough to be counted in hours). Stefan