From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs 26.1 release branch created Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 15:09:38 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83377mls4d.fsf@gnu.org> <20170919173511.GA19168@ACM> <20170921205447.GA8240@ACM> <83tvzvcidg.fsf@gnu.org> <20170922184159.GB7229@ACM> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1506107404 14272 195.159.176.226 (22 Sep 2017 19:10:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 19:10:04 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 22 21:09:54 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dvTKk-0003CG-AJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 21:09:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60677 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dvTKr-0001yP-KS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 15:10:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42635) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dvTKh-0001wY-MN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 15:09:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dvTKc-0005wS-Oz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 15:09:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=48278 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dvTKc-0005vn-HY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 15:09:46 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dvTKS-0002JK-1F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Sep 2017 21:09:36 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 13 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:pZN7k6MsAK8zOoMQeKcMdBjujWw= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:218699 Archived-At: > I'm surprised and dismayed by both your reactions to my proposed patch. Yet, it was very predictable: which symbol to use for which meaning has no technical importance, so it's a perfect candidate for bikeshedding. Worse yet: while it has no technical importance, it does have political/emotional importance. Since the decision not to define it as a defcustom was taken for strategic reasons, clearly the political/emotional aspect is very relevant here. And it's also your prime motivation for this change. Stefan