From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: transient Date: Sun, 03 May 2020 17:04:21 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87368npxw4.fsf@bernoul.li> <83y2qezlpd.fsf@gnu.org> <83tv12zjx1.fsf@gnu.org> <20200429101755.GF24737@tuxteam.de> <838sicw4do.fsf@gnu.org> <83zhaqu89z.fsf@gnu.org> <83sggiu2p9.fsf@gnu.org> <83r1w2s9wi.fsf@gnu.org> <83v9leqmss.fsf@gnu.org> <83zhapoz63.fsf@gnu.org> <0a13f7e1-61c7-1e78-22bc-a27c15c269e7@yandex.ru> <83h7wxotix.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="73069"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: tomas@tuxteam.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun May 03 23:05:03 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jVLnK-000Irs-NA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 03 May 2020 23:05:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46586 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVLnJ-0001ny-PX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 03 May 2020 17:05:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49802) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVLml-0001Ox-12 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 May 2020 17:04:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:18584) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVLmj-0002FD-N1; Sun, 03 May 2020 17:04:26 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 962E410077D; Sun, 3 May 2020 17:04:23 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 65F6A10040C; Sun, 3 May 2020 17:04:22 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1588539862; bh=ga+WI0yL+JG3ce9cbUE53z6RgeeqfT/ZfVLdk1gWxfo=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=AX90LXWsg9gL18PoRncrjlfCReRBQu4BV4V51x21W68Qfu/kf+BMrFaU74FI/vmrf i8FzTW+UjXWJ5tcUjbk6ZJgmxukpQVlk6ibBlrAKz3whmnsVMkk5eCYsskyeHL0+Ir DAr3NJtOuJ/aRveXKscahVdlqs+rR5HKBbsy0KUUTd0J+lY6ESPkrBH6NBhNy4I+lQ Lk2ovfU+elShi8F0SMSH+8GgOXc1gr3RO5UPe6fIl2uL1lYxM/iAgUKb+j9+YySvMe XH4noaohmSqLllrh6bHZE9cpTe9/2KaS+OpXyx0+mM7wZrBg2ma7jwMF/V19kdTEMr YhITH0iLZnQhA== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [216.154.3.202]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1C5FC1202A5; Sun, 3 May 2020 17:04:22 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83h7wxotix.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 03 May 2020 19:47:02 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/03 16:39:48 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248743 Archived-At: > And I don't see what's wrong with that. I saw what I thought was the > wrong tool for the job, so I suggested to use a better tool. I get the impression that you misunderstand what is "the job". >From where I stand, documentation can help reduce the pain of inconsistent naming, but it doesn't solve the underlying problem, so the tools you suggest are "the wrong tools" ;-) Stefan