From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 45a1653: ; Fix last change to bibtex.el Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 16:31:50 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20201116233108.21940.22514@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20201116233110.4E83E209DE@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87k0ujthyb.fsf@gnu.org> <875z6226fg.fsf@tcd.ie> <11259.90054.698979.24501@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <877dqizkpn.fsf@tcd.ie> <21967.72026.373783.24501@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11416"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: "Basil L. Contovounesios" , Glenn Morris , Francesco Potort=AC , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Roland Winkler" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 18 22:33:37 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kfV55-0002rF-Tb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 22:33:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60006 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kfV54-0005PQ-SL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 16:33:34 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41868) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kfV3Y-0004PE-8T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 16:32:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:40122) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kfV3T-00020x-UT; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 16:31:59 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 31B97440331; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 16:31:53 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 0AC3C440326; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 16:31:52 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1605735112; bh=vaJIt+ZNDi/MvstC/qPDJj9y91pY3+1+SbjepFJVwcA=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=aHfLEm/fVBTphx+EcdUqwVb/D9V9Hyi/Zj7PIqV9hviqDntxB9+JjytPnZG0ZysXD 1bU6R2F5vHGHfJrWPRzA1/DZT/ThE/giEMUzeqGjqi99q3nAJu2SkcJlWAH3cddjQE e9PNDlm8Rm3a+t6Wbh2h6mDnlvYPNqaQVYoKalvhcoShmqs7ma75iSInSGUsjY8uUi S5rj2hEhw+8xzNnX3sQCnRl5/vRWfBGlsAajfpyILmbo5YhEx0f13rCd7Eyc1UYFVJ /ESCC+B7lyXM92giPwWtST1gHJk+YokBwERlT0uHsISzcUEMUaEdi2KHyvgQLv04EL rnTrSM+l0KLyg== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [157.52.9.240]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A9EB612026E; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 16:31:51 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <21967.72026.373783.24501@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (Roland Winkler's message of "Wed, 18 Nov 2020 11:11:43 -0600") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/18 16:31:53 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:259388 Archived-At: > The problem is really about allowing user-defined functions. If one > excludes user-defined functions and allows only predefined > functions, the entire 'funcall ...-function' thing is not needed, > that is, the variable can hold a symbol that triggers a hard-coded call > of a predefined function. I don't understand the "the entire ...". AFAICT the replacement would be bigger. So the use of (funcall ...-function) is really a way to make the code simpler, and it just happens to come with the side benefit of being also more flexible. And indeed with the :safe keyword you can specify a number of value that can be assumed to be safe, while any other value will be raise alarms. Stefan