From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master d582356: * src/fns.c (Frandom): Handle bignum `limit`s Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2021 15:34:41 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20210305170955.27732.27579@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20210305170957.AF99920E1B@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21804"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Pip Cet Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 05 21:35:37 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lIHAf-0005Zj-F8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 05 Mar 2021 21:35:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50888 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lIHAe-0005m3-Dw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 05 Mar 2021 15:35:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54314) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lIH9s-0005Gx-Fz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Mar 2021 15:34:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:18755) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lIH9q-0008SE-L8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Mar 2021 15:34:47 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id A3A1D100257; Fri, 5 Mar 2021 15:34:44 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 91794100240; Fri, 5 Mar 2021 15:34:43 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1614976483; bh=A3K0hfxeG1Uoy1BCo2fl2fwA3Tz3vjqfNxdUbNwoqCE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=TdmtpTK6Zkq5a0DUu2QGhXqbiHibpeob8l+WhhfHCYcKiA768KNl0BlkYAwk2Od71 JbSJODjfhwcHZn5Do1LhGylxo6YP3BiFYR+KApS8C2JYcAEODddqeltKia0wWzje7z w9wkYVSW9G0EFJfMxOVBolJDIvRv6BzW2PVg+Qp3LhWQ+/V46NP3o70+llZP+/17Pg vhp80/ia3DZyxPynz7wxGCq/WYu9YFT7por36Mib04MLHgJ3JkKu4kx5Fm76mSIISb 7oy+tipc0Ow5RkSQmxzlMCYl8EmjjV6CQGA5KOKrnxlcucdmtaF3e/t2vg8mWA5Dc4 +F13zp5Ge2bIw== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [216.154.43.249]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5217B120682; Fri, 5 Mar 2021 15:34:43 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Pip Cet's message of "Fri, 5 Mar 2021 20:13:40 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266042 Archived-At: > Some people get philosophical about PRNGs, and they might be upset > about the mere suggestion that 2^N states can be used to generate an > (N+K)-bit pseudo-random integer... I haven't even bothered to look at the size of the state of our PRNG, to tell you the truth. `random` doesn't try to be cryptography-quality anyway. > And then we can get rid of the horror that is cl-random, too, right? I'll let whoever implements it figure that out. Stefan