From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ns-do-applescript Date: Tue, 31 May 2022 19:08:20 -0400 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27928"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel , Po Lu To: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 01 01:09:26 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nwAzN-00071y-Py for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 01 Jun 2022 01:09:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43882 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nwAzM-0006qc-0Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 31 May 2022 19:09:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44662) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nwAyR-0005m3-D3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2022 19:08:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:39614) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nwAyO-000827-O6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 May 2022 19:08:25 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 2EECB442C92; Tue, 31 May 2022 19:08:23 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id E6ED6442C8B; Tue, 31 May 2022 19:08:21 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1654038501; bh=DD5wT7VDlvZmycEfikrdhjLIEdRVc8DcLdYYXOs027U=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=jJddZpul7JWbTlDIgvZMfQ6+xMqHxilQnRlvNFezxFtxJSdKce+eq4Mbjj46cRfAD eSnMLfqb0uMRf7Pp7eoA68EUg66DMFWWtNSctd2jWPyeGxk382Hp3dQ0TOzkF71hGs H8h62NBTY1spn8K2SpWOKQMEgdA3YnJ+zWdwcB/M5VRUgwz02Vf5h4woL1zkozxeUw r9W4RXtagF7H2eDaNeXPTIaIXvdj9Du2tFeSzhKUsD6gfuItBFyqVX8l+G1ypCP6Du 9V9mSlJ7iUrbD58dUshuVMalI83wsD5eQ1Dn3z0aOgWl21/N+xmJJAssUXAoH7JKln GzVKeK57tbGFw== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.221.51]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8F737120302; Tue, 31 May 2022 19:08:21 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez's message of "Tue, 31 May 2022 08:34:01 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:290455 Archived-At: > > Yes, I repent, I confess... I use Emacs on a macOS... > I know this discussion sounds like some of us want to punish macOS users for their sins, but that's not what this is about. From the FSF's point of view, using a proprietary system like Windows or macOS is causing self-harm rather than harm to others (to some extent it might also harm others because of the network effect, but that's a secondary concern). Stefan