From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Doc of deprecated INITIAL-INPUT arg of completing-read Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:59:24 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87v8smt9lp.fsf@web.de> <87h6ic1l23.fsf@vagabond.tim-landscheidt.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31089"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Michael Heerdegen , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tim Landscheidt Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 13 16:00:35 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rZuGw-0007ro-HI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 13 Feb 2024 16:00:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rZuG0-0001bO-KU; Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:59:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rZuFy-0001au-Ei for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:59:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rZuFw-0003xi-DW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:59:34 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 5559A100068; Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:59:30 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1707836369; bh=vyfE3Aw75gSVlmc7giD4lPg/y4X1eFAWFepPvKi0JAo=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=dLtJ4PWVYqMYkDMAqQVB2FQaOfMjQQiYivN6qB9nfP/tqXSlnBlJQuEH0aZ2/uwtC s+3RjAMZnNe/Xpc5qRURmvaTmAAcC+A5MhCDDOzddEf8AQvAmH/+9GmQ2DKK4d514q mjSPo4a2K4tza052XngR8ddZ9hijglYkdN1GpeZmHUFxqwSNQgG+2BWzEV0v966u68 gxtw6qNQ0SOXeJm/b3Y3gTY1mnstgZdVJoNWdJX0uVIGZJUS3YwlX7diVev3yPn3oC 8XH6756Vx0KsBZKEnGLsEAYjmSdukmQUUCnXypxRmopjoQSDwVrrbEYJErhujCrj4o NScxyKd5I6aOw== Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 6304910001D; Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:59:29 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [23.233.149.155]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 499B7120D3E; Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:59:29 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87h6ic1l23.fsf@vagabond.tim-landscheidt.de> (Tim Landscheidt's message of "Tue, 13 Feb 2024 14:43:48 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:316177 Archived-At: > In Gnus, I want to set a group parameter ("to-list") when I > encounter an article in a Gmane group if that article has an > "List-Post" header. In most cases, I want to set the para- > meter to the header's value. Sometimes the header's value > is "encrypted" in which case I want to set it to another > value (which I researched out-of-prompt). That's a very usual use-case. That should use (read-string (format-prompt "to-list value (default %s): " default) nil nil default) And if you're perplexed by the complexity of this code compared to the one you proposed, I totally agree: we should rework our API so that The Right Way=E2=84=A2 is also the easiest way. Stefan