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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>, emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Crashes with non-default language environments
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 09:06:01 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvk5lb4mmw.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874pcgceu5.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (Miles Bader's message of "Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:11:14 +0900")

>>>> Of course, string-AS-unibyte is the worst of all three.  But nobody
>>>> suggested to use that one.  I just suggested to replace
>>>> string-MAKE-uniybte by string-TO-unibyte.
>> 
>>> Where's this string-to-unibyte function?  My emacs doesn't have it...
>> 
>> Oh, that's right, we still don't have it.  We only have the 3 variants
>> on the uni->multi, but not on the multi->uni.
>> I guess now is a good time to introduce it.

> I find the names of all these function incredibly confusing though...

Agreed.

> What's really wanted here, is something like
> vector-to-raw-string-dont-you-dare-do-any-encoding, right?
> [As the bytecode engine wants raw bytes with the same numbers, which
> just happened to be inside a string]

The problem is that "no encoding" means different things to
different people.  At some point I proposed to just throw out all those
functions, and force people to use encode/decode-coding-string instead,
which forces them to think a bit about what they're doing.

Oh, and throw away the `no-conversion' coding-system, of course, since
it has the same problem.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-11 14:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-07 19:54 Crashes with non-default language environments Juri Linkov
2008-02-09 22:17 ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-10  2:09   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-10 22:48     ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-11  1:39       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-11  1:56         ` Miles Bader
2008-02-11  3:02           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-11  4:11             ` Miles Bader
2008-02-11 14:06               ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2008-02-11 15:16                 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-11 16:51                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-11 21:27                 ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-12 11:41             ` Kenichi Handa
2008-02-12 16:29               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-12 11:23       ` Kenichi Handa
2008-02-12 19:29         ` Juri Linkov

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