From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: merging Emacs.app Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:38:23 -0500 Message-ID: References: <18375.18663.981150.252393@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <200803031629.m23GT4tH023615@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204580336 16546 80.91.229.12 (3 Mar 2008 21:38:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 21:38:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dan Nicolaescu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 03 22:39:19 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JWINS-00021o-Jl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:39:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JWIMu-0000bj-TM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:38:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JWIMq-0000ZW-1W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:38:40 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JWIMo-0000YF-NA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:38:39 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JWIMo-0000Y4-Ca for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:38:38 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JWIMj-0001VF-Mr; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:38:33 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CADr/y0fO+LKX/2dsb2JhbACuAIEA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,440,1199682000"; d="scan'208";a="15515356" Original-Received: from smtp.pppoe.ca ([65.39.196.238]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 03 Mar 2008 16:38:24 -0500 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([206.248.178.151]) by smtp.pppoe.ca (Internet Mail Server v1.0) with ESMTP id JYP11624; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:38:24 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C80B18279; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 16:38:23 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <200803031629.m23GT4tH023615@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> (Dan Nicolaescu's message of "Mon, 03 Mar 2008 08:29:04 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91230 Archived-At: >> But the focus will be on 23.1. As mentioned I'd like to enter feature >> freeze for 23.1 by the beginning of the summer. Until then I mostly >> hope to include Emacs.app. > Is there a definite schedule for merging Emacs.app? No. I just got in touch with Robert Adrian to try and figure out how to proceed. > What will happen with the Carbon port in CVS HEAD? It probably doesn't > even compile at the moment. What will happen to this port will in large part depend on whether or not someone wants to maintain it. The Emacs.app port is desirable not only because it provides support for Mac OS X but also because it provides support for GNUstep. W.r.t whether we want the old Carbon port, the Carbon+Appkit port (which I've only heard about), and/or the Emacs.app port all together... well that makes for 4 different ports (counting the X11 version) for Mac OS X, which is a lot more than we need/want. I think it's important for Emacs-23 to support Mac OS X about as well as we did with Emacs-22. So if Emacs.app is not yet ready and someone else is willing to work on one of the Carbon ports, maybe we could keep it. > And more importantly will the 23.1 release depend on Emacs.app port > being completely functional? No. Stefan