From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CL package serious deficiencies Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:54:20 -0500 Message-ID: References: <33271707.post@talk.nabble.com> <87fwemcwlx.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> <8739amb3rf.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1328730887 12514 80.91.229.3 (8 Feb 2012 19:54:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 19:54:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Nix , egnartsms@gmail.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, Emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 08 20:54:46 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RvDbH-00024T-Ss for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 20:54:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44655 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RvDbH-0008PF-B8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:54:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:36822) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RvDbB-0008Ky-8b for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:54:41 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RvDb2-0001sE-Ni for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:54:36 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183]:22462) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RvDb2-0001s3-J9; Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:54:28 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAITSMk9MCqD0/2dsb2JhbABDrwmBCIFyAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA2IM7lDi3USAgIDBgIEAgEEAgIMBggBAQECAYQdAQQEO4MdBIhGmwiEWg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.73,385,1325480400"; d="scan'208";a="162159934" Original-Received: from 76-10-160-244.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.160.244]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 08 Feb 2012 14:54:21 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C191659047; Wed, 8 Feb 2012 14:54:20 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 08 Feb 2012 12:42:33 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.183 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:148374 Archived-At: > It might be ok for cl-real.el to be preloaded. More importantly, it can be required at run-time. Stefan