From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Unify fn and var help to make learning elisp a little easier Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 13:50:26 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1354903977.95634.YahooMailClassic@web141102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1354907416 27708 80.91.229.3 (7 Dec 2012 19:10:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 19:10:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Kelly Dean Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 07 20:10:28 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Th3Ja-0000j6-0u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 20:10:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43496 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th3JN-0008Kf-LU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:10:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39111) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th3JJ-0008DL-Nf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:10:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th3JI-0006th-CS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:10:09 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:19045) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Th30G-0002LO-1l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2012 13:50:28 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAG6Zu09soXOY/2dsb2JhbABEtBGBCIIVAQEEAVYXDBALNBIUGA0kiBwFugmLHIUoA4hCmnGBWIMHgTk X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="209310176" Original-Received: from 108-161-115-152.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([108.161.115.152]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 07 Dec 2012 13:50:27 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id E0A7A58D3B; Fri, 7 Dec 2012 13:50:26 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <1354903977.95634.YahooMailClassic@web141102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> (Kelly Dean's message of "Fri, 7 Dec 2012 10:12:57 -0800 (PST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.182 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:155340 Archived-At: >> Actually, there is already a function for that, called >> `help-xref-interned', so all we need is to give it a nicer name >> (e.g. describe-symbol), and an `interactive' spec which >> provides completion. > That's what my patch does. Duh, sorry! Your patch is a lot better than "a simple union of describe-function and describe-variable to do this". I was fooled by your humility. The patch looks pretty good, actually. I'm not completely sure we want to use "C-h o" for its binding, tho I don't see any obvious reasons not to. But now we have the reverse problem that this goes beyond the "tiny change" limit, so we'd need you to sign some copyright paperwork before we can accept it. Would you be willing to do that? Stefan