From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: VC mode and git Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 13:53:52 -0400 Message-ID: References: <86egoeusg2.fsf@example.com> <87384qzxqy.fsf@igel.home> <83bnjen71r.fsf@gnu.org> <83twx6a7wm.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1427478869 24959 80.91.229.3 (27 Mar 2015 17:54:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 17:54:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: sva-news@mygooglest.com, schwab@suse.de, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 27 18:54:21 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YbYSZ-0003jR-Gx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 18:54:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51207 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YbYSY-0003li-Qs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 13:54:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55066) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YbYSG-0003la-T6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 13:54:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YbYSG-0003Fh-2G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 13:54:00 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:38157) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YbYSA-0003El-Gm; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 13:53:54 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgUFAGvvdVRBbthL/2dsb2JhbAA3gVOhb4EIgXUBAQQBViMFCws0EhQYDSSIE6IRiTuDKQkDAQKDPgODcASoO4E3 X-IPAS-Result: AgUFAGvvdVRBbthL/2dsb2JhbAA3gVOhb4EIgXUBAQQBViMFCws0EhQYDSSIE6IRiTuDKQkDAQKDPgODcASoO4E3 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,1,1400040000"; d="scan'208";a="114762596" Original-Received: from 65-110-216-75.cpe.pppoe.ca (HELO pastel.home) ([65.110.216.75]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 27 Mar 2015 13:53:54 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id F3094D65; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 13:53:52 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83twx6a7wm.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 27 Mar 2015 16:26:17 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:184406 Archived-At: > The broader issue is how to generalize RCS-style vc-next-action to > modern dVCSes. I think the current "generalization" is mostly a net > loss; we can and should do better. Back in RCS times, the set of possible actions at any given time was limited by constraints imposed by the tool. A lot of the motivation behind the subsequent tools has been to try and lift this constraints, and as a result, unsurprisingly most operations can now be applied at any time. So the DWIM element of C-x v v is indeed by nature very difficult to port from RCS to Git/Hg/Bzr/Younameit. So I think that refining C-x v v is pretty hopeless. I won't stop anyone from doing it, but I think it's a complete waste of time. Stefan