From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Question about defcustom and :set-after
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 23:54:15 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvk1so11tt.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87muxk17oz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Mon, 30 Apr 2018 18:33:00 -0700")
> Being entirely too lazy, I intended it to be run from a running Emacs
> session.
I understand the lazy guy wants to run it from within its session, *but*
the lazy guy wants to implement it such that it works from "emacs -Q".
So as the guy who's trying to implement it, your laziness argument
seems counterintuitive.
> The question remains, though: I think several of Gnus' defcustom's might
> need :set-after clauses.
Notice that the order in which to evaluate those settings depends on the
settings themselves, so the issue is non-trivial.
Also :set-after doesn't do what you want here: it only affects the order
in which customized vars are customized, but it doesn't cause vars to be
re-evaluated. It's for use for example when variable B should be set
after A because setting B causes something to happen (e.g. it's a minor
mode so setting it causes the mode to be loaded and enabled, so if
B affects this minor mode, we want to set it before the mode is enabled).
What you describe is currently simply not supported by Custom :-(
You can approximate it by adding :setter functions, but it's messy,
fragile, and only solves some use cases.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-05-01 3:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-05-01 0:00 Question about defcustom and :set-after Eric Abrahamsen
2018-05-01 0:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-05-01 1:33 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2018-05-01 3:54 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2018-05-01 16:20 ` Eric Abrahamsen
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
List information: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=jwvk1so11tt.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org \
--to=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca \
--cc=emacs-devel@gnu.org \
--cc=eric@ericabrahamsen.net \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).