From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Some ideas with Emacs Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2019 17:41:36 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87d0dbszjn.fsf@mbork.pl> <8736e4titj.fsf@mbork.pl> <871rtoti9w.fsf@mbork.pl> <87v9qysxbb.fsf@mbork.pl> <87lfrusaxu.fsf@mbork.pl> <87fti2s7dx.fsf@mbork.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="16888"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: VanL , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Marcin Borkowski Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 02 23:42:01 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ibuOG-0004ES-2F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 23:42:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45282 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ibuOE-0008WR-Ps for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 17:41:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50770) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ibuO6-0008UK-5L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 17:41:51 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ibuO4-0002fg-8e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 17:41:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:23075) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ibuO3-0002dX-Tc; Mon, 02 Dec 2019 17:41:48 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 41BE21004C7; Mon, 2 Dec 2019 17:41:46 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 557A01003C9; Mon, 2 Dec 2019 17:41:44 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1575326504; bh=E/0BfBeWNJF+/R9jEZV+o3A6IejB+3YzpfJZKgLhwJc=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=B2DniPKemuXlLupLCMHaV3ltI6K4kg5oThLV2ayVAgdYzsSSDQpoAx6Mxvok2Ou4k wnAGdfGCrc9gb4MVde1wi8QZ0bXEObfVF7p89g6eOZP9Bf15wG4Zik8ql9O9D/p2fs mAquknFrb1nONMYGxNkWHdjKCjVvxxTHBWX5NGv7nl+celUqbpmz9a4oBlgYvx7c6N NBTdByRc1fsdac12LG+Opt2Z/14BArLXg37vA53oDj2/hubH7AsISO+doG8pyFcZ2P EJr0dSSX/dwj07YVMxIzUqx70SaLneVVqScB41+OjYNyDkBlXbm80LEw0jXb3U5vLr XOXC2llniCNaw== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.134.213]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 142B3120737; Mon, 2 Dec 2019 17:41:44 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87fti2s7dx.fsf@mbork.pl> (Marcin Borkowski's message of "Mon, 02 Dec 2019 23:13:46 +0100") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 132.204.25.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:243022 Archived-At: > I never said I want to write a "free" (as in FSF) book. I'm not talking about any particular book or any particular author, but I'm concerned here about whether I would consider a license "Free enough" that I'd feel comfortable recommending the book to someone. > I didn't say "disallowing". I said "disallowing without an explicit > consent". That's pretty much the same, actually: a license only says what you can do without asking for additional permission. It doesn't prevent the author from giving additional permissions upon request. > Have you heard the story about the infamous Swedish > translation of LotR? While I would not compare any of my books (written > or to-be-written) with that of master JRRT, this is an important > cautionary tale. That's why I said: I can agree that the author may not want to have his name directly attached to the translation, but that's a far cry from disallowing translations altogether. E.g. I could accept a license which states that any derivative work (translation or otherwise) needs to use a different title and/or clearly say not only that it's a derivative of your work but also that it is not your work. Or something along these lines. Stefan