From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: html manual +css Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2019 17:03:38 -0500 Message-ID: References: <05A866DB-4211-476E-9107-14E5F9BE9232@gmail.com> <53DA475D-B063-470A-BB87-D3FFC9A7CF79@gmail.com> <834lvyct3t.fsf@gnu.org> <01B655FC-51F0-4A33-ADBF-3E1268E9E0EA@gmail.com> <3D282E00-27F3-451A-9895-5BCEEE0B7FA8@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="174154"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel To: Jean-Christophe Helary Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 25 23:04:25 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ikElS-000j9b-Ol for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Dec 2019 23:04:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49496 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ikElR-0007rG-14 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Dec 2019 17:04:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44478) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ikEkt-0007Qe-N7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Dec 2019 17:03:48 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ikEks-00023o-01 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Dec 2019 17:03:47 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:11424) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ikEkr-00023R-By for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Dec 2019 17:03:45 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 1DB4944D59F; Wed, 25 Dec 2019 17:03:44 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id B0FAA44D59C; Wed, 25 Dec 2019 17:03:42 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1577311422; bh=mDDnuT7TiBp5FZyJiHl4xrJsVJhgEV6KJfrbo4I4xJA=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=omXbkrOBrfIPth9sXTac70i0hBlEKhOIxSZlhRhti5lycHbirQG8AEtbfvWzmp7eZ jfzjRH0CX9uQpSdTBrR3/w4ZYfFLDTtn6If4n2CPgF9MXuGSQfZGjh4Lcj0V8bSnOF JmY9+4QPmIVfY6OlXCW8mxilFfeiV/UqS+LSsa1cjDK85sKx8E94jIp6Z7Kr2a7qnX Dl5vUIYHaWAEc0CoJnLZ73NUcuu+ObG8vV2Tz7krQ0QMX0VfyF4Bg17DzPzgI4JR1V WtRlNmkeJfHCtw9K6jfxCdyk27jh3gMlpYrV9pyjMbuRSl4IB+r5dl8/LTSdUClP5W IAbqurY1V57aA== Original-Received: from pastel (69-165-143-56.dsl.teksavvy.com [69.165.143.56]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BBF3B12121D; Wed, 25 Dec 2019 17:03:41 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Jean-Christophe Helary's message of "Tue, 24 Dec 2019 23:37:48 +0900") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 132.204.25.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:243631 Archived-At: > Ok, so I have something that works both ways: > > 1) when the display is wide enough to have the full horizontal menu, the > menu is displayed horizontally and follows the scrolling. > > 2) when the display is not wide enough to have the full horizontal menu, the > menu is displayed on the right side of the screen, as a list of links, with > "icons" before the link names to hint at their use, and the menu sticks to > its original position. Looks great on my desktop, thanks, > Would you mind checking if that works as you intended ? It does. I just now tried to look at the page from a phone and it looks identical, which I guess is good (indeed in pixels, my desktop's browser and my phone's browser (when the phone is in portrait position) have about the same number of pixels), but it makes the site difficult to read on my phone (I have to zoom on the various parts to read them ;-) It's definitely no worse than what we currently have on gnu.org, tho! It's more readable when I put my phone in landscape, but then this first line menu ends up using a large fraction of my screen real estate so I wouldn't want it to always stay on-screen. [ I guess this is the only part which I could consider a regression compared to what we currently have on gnu.org. And it's a result of what I asked for (and like) when reading on a desktop. Oh well! ] To clarify: it's never occurred to me to look at such docs on my phone, so it's probably not an important use case. Stefan "whose phone's browser has more pixels than his desktop's"