From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal for an Emacs User Survey Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2020 09:13:51 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20201016130235.06218dae@argon> <20201016142436.187b8210@argon> <20201016152523.6fdfef65@argon> <6142a27f-c53b-35bf-1038-5f047395e868@yandex.ru> <20201016204531.77fab05b@argon> <725aa7c4-321f-4483-5a21-a148ff7f119b@yandex.ru> <20201016191758.GK11061@protected.rcdrun.com> <86b80c47-873b-5e83-cea0-5ac1927f0015@yandex.ru> <20201016200305.GO11061@protected.rcdrun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23163"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: mve1@runbox.com, emacs-devel , Richard Stallman , Jean Louis , Dmitry Gutov To: Thibaut Verron Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 17 15:14:32 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kTm2a-0005vr-Bz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 15:14:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50532 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kTm2Z-0001tI-Dw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 09:14:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58028) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kTm22-0001Uc-M1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 09:13:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:2557) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kTm1z-0006hp-VD; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 09:13:57 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 574CE44029C; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 09:13:54 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 1396A44027C; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 09:13:53 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1602940433; bh=G71IYEDJUrfG0UKMfUk3HKLR0L3bfo++E3LLyWE6vMM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=mCsBBrNCuv00HrU6ftVjgldCrhuOKR9yklnC0K2lht2w1OUyOc+rTrDzgJTn9E9D/ X9Ocv1AxMA6HZU6/861/N6Sik0tZOwI0QY+WCyh0k3kSMmr8PO9rr55Q3dwLat4wJG k+tJuTpV66MKUQsiutMbhaGNyzUqGWAA2wVl8T8qnoBYACKHfkB5Q2v5haobCfJvxr XIRfIXar+Dy/Bn/vPZ9zO0d5UP+O9Y9t0CotZ/QW6gd06ndJCIuyT/JC0+gjivK1HT CRFVapOsMCag0oMHXH2NWUtLO5QIit0Q5iskUvun8w7iWfXykCFt/ekJ75OEc60i9A HNsuPCpRX8syw== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [157.52.9.240]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C8CA112032C; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 09:13:52 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Thibaut Verron's message of "Sat, 17 Oct 2020 07:02:36 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/17 09:13:54 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257937 Archived-At: >> To move all the recommendations of nonfree software >> OUT of Melpa, and into some other obscure new repository, >> would be a great step forward! It would eliminate one >> of the reasons why currently we must not inform people about Melpa. > It would not be obscure for very long, because most of the Emacs blogs > would not refrain from advertising it. AFAIK they make up a very small fraction of the MELPA archive, both in terms of number of packages and in terms of popularity of those packages. Of course, those people who want those packages would still find a way to get to them, but that's OK, we're not in the business of disallowing people from shackling themselves to proprietary software. Stefan