From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: non-gnu elpa issue tracking Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2020 19:32:54 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20201209125516.lenqswi7fhiscbr2@E15-2016.optimum.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23276"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Jean Louis , Richard Stallman , thibaut.verron@gmail.com, Boruch Baum , Emacs developers , Stefan Kangas , Andrea Corallo To: Tim Cross Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 14 01:44:34 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kobyc-0005vt-GT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 01:44:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56200 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kobyb-0000zR-IJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 19:44:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33130) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kobnc-0005fo-R7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 19:33:12 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:24710) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kobnW-0003TM-GK; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 19:33:11 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id AF8FE1002B8; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 19:33:03 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 57CD210022E; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 19:33:01 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1607905981; bh=faeq2bKwq7WbMJTyUyNEKxftbmHurjTHgnRZ0+OTySg=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=XQjNLzGr0W4+zKsEzL8KgsL9+2+UqKJXqewFIYvvLo/ZU2Wa0ljqu3jytVHDhA2L/ XiuWvP2H9g728YET9IAj7/qVSKn6yDQb1zK+FVLndpcOLUqDG6lwVKz8PIV0UWjMDJ RCDz5Z6OZ8bMNTfzVynqiE4AjhJZjMp33rSQ5EbujYxIEwIo49olGY53llwG6hX4vr nqZDbvUf4BUxfoP48cEee4TWufkduEAzsfLYf4AD93BvDTQzO2Jv1OBPDZCQnmBhW0 InRIkOX4qdKFyg9jo3pWoCCUgVNilILfhDfN24eo8KQ/EYFsP9FzKoaI7tYfiNCH8A hVHn6RxVCtVnQ== Original-Received: from alfajor (69-165-136-52.dsl.teksavvy.com [69.165.136.52]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E7A801202BB; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 19:33:00 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Tim Cross's message of "Mon, 14 Dec 2020 09:59:21 +1100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:260780 Archived-At: > and that list contains the following - > > (("ace-window" :external "https://github.com/abo-abo/ace-window") [...] > ("ztree" :external "https://github.com/fourier/ztree") [...] > I don't have an issue with this, but it does seem inconsistent to argue > github does not comply with FSF philosophy and guidelines while at the same > time using it to maintain code which the FSF holds the copyright for and to > have references to github as the homepage for the package. Correction: the above URLs are reference to the Git repository, not to the homepage. I know Github conflates the two, but the above URLs are not advertised to the end user. The URL we advertise as "the homepage" on elpa.gnu.org are taken from the "URL:" pseudo header in the package's main file (i.e. `.el`). For most (all?) packages hosted on Github, that URL is the same as the one found in `externals-list` of course but I think the distinction is important (e.g. we could refrain from including the reference to the "homepage" on github while keeping the Git reference). Stefan