From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: policy discussion on bundling ELPA packages in the emacs tarball Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 09:44:12 -0500 Message-ID: References: <86eeifawx8.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <87czxygdl9.fsf@russet.org.uk> <86tur88izp.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <86h7n880lo.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83y2gk3rin.fsf@gnu.org> <86o8he6y4k.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <8335yq4350.fsf@gnu.org> <86k0s26qqt.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83sg6q2is5.fsf@gnu.org> <86wnw06cgo.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83y2gg23qb.fsf@gnu.org> <867dny5u4u.fsf@stephe-leake.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6279"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stephen Leake Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 27 15:46:35 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l4m5a-0001W8-L1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:46:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60092 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l4m5Z-0002y5-MA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 09:46:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55736) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l4m3O-0002Gd-Ue for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 09:44:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:42281) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l4m3M-0007se-Dg; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 09:44:17 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id B205D44067B; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 09:44:14 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 7C237440147; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 09:44:13 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1611758653; bh=yVX6MochRyJVAbSvFb7FvUfGnuYElgyxSMJyxGZuOcg=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=W0fyLki6X+OyjRfWqPqzn81jDTm42aAAWXeiKq+6W/eeufQizEbB+qsuCLINNwcFV 2D+rcRlTRNHSRSvhi/rpdpOZ57XbjDylWPlyHVAh/ed6QZ8RaDLW01TNGWtCtOOjsm 19s7NkEdCM6Kr184v4GGAqy8QFdsn2RXcHWywLdAbfmuLT0jkFDamWr2fIAKSlvIic VJE9l29K7f5yfjd8xNj5bADZoVBxgQ/QEkUnQu/w3TEntYJREaQMd9zaDViU1jABAH auHuQYEFIoWWOEjL52NB0vgPdXy1WhboUopPUPRFuxl5pIRLPGKle0ODd3Izhe+4WC yKpfhaPaCXWfA== Original-Received: from alfajor (69-196-141-46.dsl.teksavvy.com [69.196.141.46]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 456A312045A; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 09:44:13 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <867dny5u4u.fsf@stephe-leake.org> (Stephen Leake's message of "Wed, 27 Jan 2021 06:31:13 -0800") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:263503 Archived-At: > So one way to eliminate the ballast is to split Gnu ELPA into one > repository per package; then git submodule will only download the > repository for that package. There's a strong technical reason why `elpa.git` and `nongnu.git` are single repositories: Savannah does not let us create new repositories nor change their default branch, nor setup/change the commit-diffs for them. Every time such a thing needs to happen, we have to ask a sysadmin to do it for us. So for the foreseeable future, "one repository per package" is a complete non-starter. [ The "all in one repository" approach also has other advantages, but there's no point weighing their importance since there's currently no credible alternative anyway. ] Stefan