From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: XInput 2 support (again) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2021 22:18:13 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87v90wmh6m.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87v90wmh6m.fsf@yahoo.com> <87a6i7le2u.fsf@yahoo.com> <83wnlau371.fsf@gnu.org> <83h7cetvso.fsf@gnu.org> <87y25q2rj8.fsf@yahoo.com> <87sfvy2knz.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14351"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 15 04:19:20 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mmSWe-0003Zz-H5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2021 04:19:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42658 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mmSWd-0004Np-5F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 14 Nov 2021 22:19:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56312) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mmSVj-0003H2-HE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Nov 2021 22:18:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:7981) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mmSVh-0005eC-16; Sun, 14 Nov 2021 22:18:22 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 35E9B440FF2; Sun, 14 Nov 2021 22:18:18 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 98D55440B15; Sun, 14 Nov 2021 22:18:16 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1636946296; bh=SGZb13aUy7foPk+/kOr69dmmgRQcTH+tQQr8vMEdVXs=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=pPRnGv3E78rRszz6Ti6E1x8sKokPstq3duPeHAOZksYjqlCzyHpbwugn65trR55hB g+daSxMQmoEvthSBzNlRfaGD9hv7GYYvDk22YLn9Y6u29NQUFOqg3nLKAbjXTt1Bzs TJ1AbwAtd+CxLr2LPcaSqRNcqk588BOMr156F3UeRWcQGbpQ7bvFzfBZMoUmkdjz70 J9lUWew12EPxLgtkC4amIuaQrioCmM1npXlN+xw6IqDPOopO59KKoRhrWRdxKy4BnI neXNGehu0O0r9D/5AazmQttbSFxjUOA2cLbyfOBbRqhQPDHaQfN2QP/Sd5DpRmsWPs TsXldsuDwP+vw== Original-Received: from ceviche (unknown [45.72.128.33]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 43B391208A3; Sun, 14 Nov 2021 22:18:16 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87sfvy2knz.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Mon, 15 Nov 2021 10:54:24 +0800") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279458 Archived-At: Po Lu [2021-11-15 10:54:24] wrote: > Stefan Monnier writes: >> Can you quantify this "older"? > Released before X11R7.5. AFAICT that was 2009. So, yes, old but not quite as ancient as some of the other things we try to support. >>> People also like to turn it off over remote connections because they >>> think it takes up more bandwidth than Core Input. >> Do Gtk applications still work in the absence of XInput2 version =E2=89= =A51.1 ? > Yes, they will fall back to Core Input. At least, GTK 3 will. I don't > know about GTK 4, which has significant changes here. So it looks like for the next few years we'll still want to support the non-XInput2 code. Stefan