From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Touchscreen support Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 11:00:30 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87czlxkntg.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87czlxkntg.fsf@yahoo.com> <87mtkziwhi.fsf@yahoo.com> <87wnk3h0hn.fsf@yahoo.com> <87o85fgx4x.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22874"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Po Lu via "Emacs development discussions." , Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 17 17:02:24 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1myFgd-0005gD-LC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 17:02:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49978 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1myFgc-0001UW-5Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 11:02:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36526) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1myFew-0008U8-OV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 11:00:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:1440) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1myFeu-0007Gi-TD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 11:00:37 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id AD2CD442548; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 11:00:35 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 3D4F54418D1; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 11:00:34 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1639756834; bh=QwPJm7zSvfYshA73CnnBFOvITstNHNw78ZUz/2kZpMw=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Ym6J0vtBXa81oqivKB4KY2LefTgV03lbtigSnEbWA4pyhz2gp5D9AFU+EUwTsy4P3 NCh1J/41pNWSLYYsxEQp6TUyRyiDUi39e9iwBzM1tanf9e3d0tDHc9kD5t233Ay6g7 B81N31e7ZtbSqLWnLJ39L+EPWaHXVzvo6wgZUYxmC3AdygGiBhs9CTzRPoKv0dD0Z3 9lY/XQ1EXPfk0048VwC4tPiqG8Ojoh76lCsfLh6KEQ5SZ4iZhe2C/pOjdN5MsTAFxj Tm8ssILv+Mk5pm72aJTHnJr9awBMZjFkuIIMxOgM+Fnxln0Eu4YrXztSDxGls9Z3E+ T+lzjTYaZMvaQ== Original-Received: from alfajor (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2A9B4120840; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 11:00:34 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87o85fgx4x.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Fri, 17 Dec 2021 21:48:46 +0800") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282223 Archived-At: Po Lu [2021-12-17 21:48:46] wrote: > Stefan Monnier writes: >> Hmm... that sucks. Hopefully this will improve in the longer term, > > Sadly, I doubt that will happen, the reason being that the X world is > moving further and further from 'all batteries included' to 'just use a > toolkit', and programs (such as Emacs or Firefox) that directly act as X > clients are getting more and more rare. I can't see why we should not use such a toolkit. We already do for many other things. Stefan