From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Yoni Rabkin <yoni@rabkins.net>
Cc: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Emms and youtube-dl
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2022 14:23:15 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvk0caasvr.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875yo1o6xt.fsf@rabkins.net> (Yoni Rabkin's message of "Fri, 25 Mar 2022 21:09:50 -0400")
> Someone is offering to add code to Emms which supports
> youtube-dl/ytdl. The FSF has a post about those programs here and
> youtube generally here:
> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/whats-wrong-with-youtube.en.html
>
> Initially, I rejected the code because I thought that youtube-dl runs
> non-free javascript. But that FSF article says it does not. But still
> the other reasons in the article, mainly that youtube-dl is a fragile
> web-scraping kludge to access a resource which isn't committed to free
> access, I am hesitant to add the code.
AFAICT it's up to you: ethically, there is no problem with `youtube-dl`
and to the extent that it helps users avoid proprietary software I think
it's good to add support for it.
But yes, `youtube-dl` is a kludge and we should encourage people to use
services that are more friendly to our ideals, but in most cases I (as
a user) don't always get to choose where the video I need has been
uploaded (most of my uses of `youtube-dl` is to transfer the video to
a local PeerTube service ;-)
Stefan
prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-31 18:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-26 1:09 Emms and youtube-dl Yoni Rabkin
2022-03-27 5:28 ` Richard Stallman
2022-03-27 6:46 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-03-28 4:17 ` Richard Stallman
2022-03-28 19:54 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-03-29 3:29 ` Richard Stallman
2022-03-31 18:23 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
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