From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Howto fix: package autoload is deprecated Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 13:16:59 -0400 Message-ID: References: <25377.16025.896544.821967@google.com> <83r10e2nx7.fsf@gnu.org> <871qsd1504.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39884"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: "T.V Raman" , Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 15 19:19:03 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oYsVz-000ACs-DP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2022 19:19:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42970 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oYsVy-00056H-2Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2022 13:19:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58020) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oYsUL-0004JQ-DW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2022 13:17:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:44137) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oYsUI-00089v-P1; Thu, 15 Sep 2022 13:17:20 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id BA7B4441442; Thu, 15 Sep 2022 13:17:16 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 71621441415; Thu, 15 Sep 2022 13:17:15 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1663262235; bh=Yg6gVuwagKwMqhhq1O24v+20lEAxr8VEUfF+hwzOqmU=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=cRotTaJz9op3xq9zQrEkawhRlogUjqunOPJESedEfsGwYjXRCwgjm/R+gGXTTDxpY sRgfu5CJrNrlajEbqyxmKS3+qul5qOw4wu9Zty9Jr9SfhlsNpTfQWxEWCbT2yJloUl DC68qDmwYw4nDodCaI37069d9bgNctstLNH6bioU/Epa30ihppVph0LovY4Xbc6h49 ZwpgaXOSy2oGzDbbe0yFzIrV4rN3lbTfWxQ3uzZPblTi3v+Qcc5Zu/CUf8yJbZKzYk vIjAJAQX6qnRO580hwATF0xRUW3RRUsf/Clb7D1BK7vMDMLSbDCNFf7NurbVONnkNS ULJC6DDk2+8xA== Original-Received: from lechazo (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 387BB120516; Thu, 15 Sep 2022 13:17:15 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <871qsd1504.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 15 Sep 2022 09:16:59 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:295434 Archived-At: >> FWIW, I think the obsoletion(?) of `autoload.el` is a bit rash: >> it breaks all existing packages which just called the (formerly) >> autoloaded entry points without first doing (require 'autoload). > Unless I missed something, all the previously ###;;;autoloaded entry > points should still be available without doing that (see subr.el). Hmm... indeed. Sorry 'bout the noise. Tho I wonder then if Raman's code could work "unchanged" by just removing the explicit (require 'autoload). Stefan