From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Help sought understanding shorthands wrt modules/packages Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2022 08:50:08 -0400 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36951"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gerd =?windows-1252?Q?M=F6llmann?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 30 13:50:39 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1op7lt-0009Op-UD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2022 13:50:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1op7la-0000TT-2i; Sun, 30 Oct 2022 08:50:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1op7lX-0000TJ-Oe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2022 08:50:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1op7lV-0006cO-BL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2022 08:50:15 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id C89AA4408C1; Sun, 30 Oct 2022 08:50:11 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 95E3544088B; Sun, 30 Oct 2022 08:50:10 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1667134210; bh=7OnQ13TR4jPCXzKbiorIwia4L0v35vOfQzwF6eyq1IE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=ohdN6d2CMMSfIPfE1ZoYGGNlb6kCrgQZTyr/ZjguOQCnDuC/+i3rhGMi3TSi5JP7v +BBL1uNpmdwfp4UlfJsheZ4uI82Psa5H6AvuDLDoeivFxzT+e2MI9xjvqXOyvYw9ql KPFspcGXnswfuf4q7UtuIx2jIQT2SpQnhspe5LEAD9OfcJ83GaYoTKxP2ilh4wz/zf RE8vd4IV7FyLz+SyliEjTH9NPDAnxXRydYVRvLtKDoYzdrGOvTW4wxlgbFh9LjglM2 hxLvyJo204CXld9sxFVUUxQBfq+4nUNBG0UOLz/oeXjU9HVhDLQayL+LmBK2m91hY2 08VUikJcveOaQ== Original-Received: from pastel (65-110-220-202.cpe.pppoe.ca [65.110.220.202]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4CC2E120377; Sun, 30 Oct 2022 08:50:10 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: ("Gerd =?windows-1252?Q?M=F6l?= =?windows-1252?Q?lmann=22's?= message of "Sun, 30 Oct 2022 07:45:39 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:298810 Archived-At: > The reason why I think shorthands don't address that problem is pretty > simple, according to me again: The underlying one obarray can only > contain one name per symbol at a time. So, whatever name lands in the I thought CL packages had the same problem: you can't (globally) have two packages with the same name. Stefan "Trying hard not to get pulled into this discussion"